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Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:

The UK works around this with a tightly knit community programme, something I imagine you don'tget with commercial hospitals. They have obligations to be active within the community set by the government, kind of like the BBC have obligations to satisfy certain audiences. They offer free sex ed and other medical education services for young people and schools, free mother and baby clinics and so on and so forth. It's a good system.

 

None of that addresses the Obesity problem. Which is a huge problem. Some UK doctors have suggested not offering the same services to the obese because of the huge deficit their care causes. They were of course shot down.

 

I think you missed my point.



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I've seen fatter people work before...Heck, it's the norm in America. I took one look at the picture and thought 'you've got to be kidding me'. What a bunch of lazy people. Even if weight is hereditary, it doesn't prevent you from doing work.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Once again Kasz strikes, and wins.



luinil said:
Once again Kasz strikes, and wins.

 

he failed to prove either me or highwaystar wrong, how is that a win? its like me saying that Man Utd drawing 1-1 with someone is a win purely as we scored 1 goal?



I fail at seeing your logic in your posts. He scored multiple goals. You scored none.



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Kasz216 said:

minority yes.

Vast... I'm not so sure. 

For a lot of people I think the stigma of being unemployed means a lot more then satisfaction from working at crappy fast food places and the like.  If they weren't afraid of being looked down opon...

Either way these people are a big drain.

People who willingly do nothing to help themselves or their fellow man.

People who intentionally refuse to do anything and drain resources unlike those naturally afflicted and don't have the choice.

People who intentionally refuse to help themselves or their common man and only live to leech of the state have broken their social contracts in my opinion and the government should have no reponsibility to these people.  Not working because you can't find a job or because you have a disease is acceptable.

Not working because you don't want a job or don't want to cure a disease is not.

 

humans arent perfect, that dosent mean there not human, yes id prefer that people who can work do, but im not gonna force them if there that set against it, afterall if there that set agianst it forcing them wont help much, just means theyre gonna do the job badly, id rather have someone whos gonna make an effort do the job, the best way to fix the problem is education and social mobility, if we improve thoose things people have better opurtunitys in life and so will get jobs they want to do rather than feel they dont want to work

 



SciFiBoy said:
Kasz216 said:

minority yes.

Vast... I'm not so sure. 

For a lot of people I think the stigma of being unemployed means a lot more then satisfaction from working at crappy fast food places and the like.  If they weren't afraid of being looked down opon...

Either way these people are a big drain.

People who willingly do nothing to help themselves or their fellow man.

People who intentionally refuse to do anything and drain resources unlike those naturally afflicted and don't have the choice.

People who intentionally refuse to help themselves or their common man and only live to leech of the state have broken their social contracts in my opinion and the government should have no reponsibility to these people.  Not working because you can't find a job or because you have a disease is acceptable.

Not working because you don't want a job or don't want to cure a disease is not.

 

humans arent perfect, that dosent mean there not human, yes id prefer that people who can work do, but im not gonna force them if there that set against it, afterall if there that set agianst it forcing them wont help much, just means theyre gonna do the job badly, id rather have someone whos gonna make an effort do the job, the best way to fix the problem is education and social mobility, if we improve thoose things people have better opurtunitys in life and so will get jobs they want to do rather than feel they dont want to work

 

 

It's fine if someone doesn't want to work, but why should I be expected to support that person because they want disability?

 



...Ive seen Fatter people work, and if that fat chick can go to school she can work!



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twesterm said:
SciFiBoy said:
Kasz216 said:

minority yes.

Vast... I'm not so sure. 

For a lot of people I think the stigma of being unemployed means a lot more then satisfaction from working at crappy fast food places and the like.  If they weren't afraid of being looked down opon...

Either way these people are a big drain.

People who willingly do nothing to help themselves or their fellow man.

People who intentionally refuse to do anything and drain resources unlike those naturally afflicted and don't have the choice.

People who intentionally refuse to help themselves or their common man and only live to leech of the state have broken their social contracts in my opinion and the government should have no reponsibility to these people.  Not working because you can't find a job or because you have a disease is acceptable.

Not working because you don't want a job or don't want to cure a disease is not.

 

humans arent perfect, that dosent mean there not human, yes id prefer that people who can work do, but im not gonna force them if there that set against it, afterall if there that set agianst it forcing them wont help much, just means theyre gonna do the job badly, id rather have someone whos gonna make an effort do the job, the best way to fix the problem is education and social mobility, if we improve thoose things people have better opurtunitys in life and so will get jobs they want to do rather than feel they dont want to work

 

 

It's fine if someone doesn't want to work, but why should I be expected to support that person because they want disability?

as ive already said obesity and over eating are often symptoms of mental health issues, even then, as i feel that healthcare is a human right, we should still treat them, and try to convince them to stop, but we shouldnt force people to change there diets, when it comes to benefits, everyone deserves some sort of help to survive in the world, we cant just throw them out on the streets, that would make things worse



.......... So..... fat ppl are mentally retarded? Did you really just say that?