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M-117 on 25 March 2009

it amazes me how europeans would rather buy a PS3 when its hundreds of dollars more expensive, when a 360 cna play the exact same multiplats.



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Ail on 25 March 2009
M-117 said:
it amazes me how europeans would rather buy a PS3 when its hundreds of dollars more expensive, when a 360 cna play the exact same multiplats.

 

RROD did a lot of hurt to MSFT in Europe...

That and Sony mostly has a reputation for providing quality electronics there.

Besides if you factor in BluRay and WiFi the PS3 is more expensive but you get more value so it turns out to be the same..



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Aj_habfan on 25 March 2009

Haven't been into one of these "X SALES UP!!!" threads in a while. They still blow.



M-117 on 25 March 2009
Ail said:
M-117 said:
it amazes me how europeans would rather buy a PS3 when its hundreds of dollars more expensive, when a 360 cna play the exact same multiplats.

 

RROD did a lot of hurt to MSFT in Europe...

That and Sony mostly has a reputation for providing quality electronics there.

Besides if you factor in BluRay and WiFi the PS3 is more expensive but you get more value so it turns out to be the same..

 

 What about headset, backwards compatibility, component cables, bundled games? These are all things 360 has in the box that PS3 doesnt.



WereKitten on 25 March 2009

@M-117
Headset: 20€ and you don't get that with the arcade, right? (you spoke of hundreds of dollars more)
HDMI cable: 7€
My Ps3 was bundled with LBP, but there were also other bundles available.
And yes, it's a pity about PS2 backwards compatibility. That's why I kept my PS2, that nowadays you can buy new for 79€ if you need it.
Plus it came with an 80GB HD and Wifi and I don't have to pay to play online.

Depending on what you need and like, it has better value.
If you don't care about BluRay and PS3 exclusives and easily upgreadable HD, and you don't care about paying for Live then the 360 is probably better for you.



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Ail on 25 March 2009
M-117 said:
Ail said:
M-117 said:
it amazes me how europeans would rather buy a PS3 when its hundreds of dollars more expensive, when a 360 cna play the exact same multiplats.

 

RROD did a lot of hurt to MSFT in Europe...

That and Sony mostly has a reputation for providing quality electronics there.

Besides if you factor in BluRay and WiFi the PS3 is more expensive but you get more value so it turns out to be the same..

 

 What about headset, backwards compatibility, component cables, bundled games? These are all things 360 has in the box that PS3 doesnt.

Does the 360 comes with component cables or HDMI cables ?

Because HDMI is really what you want to use with a PS3 anyway.

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Reasonable on 26 March 2009
M-117 said:
it amazes me how europeans would rather buy a PS3 when its hundreds of dollars more expensive, when a 360 cna play the exact same multiplats.

 

RROD did a lot of brand damage here, use of WiFi is I believe more common for connecting therefore this gets factored in as an additional cost for 360, Playstation brand is better known, many gamers in Europe for shooters still prefer PC, therefore see PS3 as having better library - i.e. less shooter centric, more titles like R&C with stuff like God of War, Gran Turismo, Jak, etc. still to come.

Also BR I believe is stating to become attractive, and that is a big difference in cost if you plan to buy a 360, WiFi adaptor for 360 plus a seperate Blu-Ray player.

 



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Avinash_Tyagi on 26 March 2009
Ail said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

@selnor:
So just do the maths: this gen's winner has every interest in keeping it alive as long as possible, whichever competitor stops before, so much the worse for it, as Wii is winning with really huge absolute numbers, but with a market share smaller than PS2 last gen, so it's leaving more room to competitors. This doesn't mean that nobody should launch its next gen console too early compared to Nintendo, each one should follow its plans about this, but simply that it shouldn't retire its current console as long as it sells well.

 

 Big difference, PS2 had a year advance over its competitors to build up marketshare, Wii entered the market a year behind one of its competitors an  has since then thundered to almost 50% marketshare, in the face of frequent supply issues, in fact WW it has sold faster than both the DS and the PS2

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS2&reg2=All&cons3=DS&reg3=All&weeks=123

 

Yes, but now it's hovering quite stably around 50% and supply issues are over. But it must be repeated that that 50% means an absolute number, as I said and you showed, greater than what PS2 got in the same time, this means that this gen current user base is alredy HUGE, even after 3and 1/2 years for XB360 and only 2 and 1/2 for Wii and PS, and it still has wide growth potential, retiring too early would mean kicking away big possible sales and it would be particularly detrimental to Sony or MS, as they must recover bigger initial investments.

 

 Thing is Nintendo's Sales arc for the Wii is much larger than that of that 360 and PS3,  PS3 and 360 will see tapering demand before the Wii, the Wii for example has yet to see a price drop or an alternative color come out, unlike its competitors

Actually the Wii is already seeing huge tapering demand in its home market where it is selling 50% less in 2009 than in 2008 so far and 2008 already sold less than 2007.

 

 

 Yeah and an increasing WW sales, duh, don't be a fool, WW sales are more important than sale in one market



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

heruamon on 26 March 2009

If the reason the 360 is doing well in Others, then that's no going to change, since M$ has clearly state they intend to say "price competitive" to PS3...ie...price cut to match it...heck a $179 arcade might actually start to make dents into the Wii as well.



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