Those were great games, but the size of that list is pathetic. You need more than just a handful of games for an entire gen.
Not a 360 fanboy, just a PS3 fanboy hater that likes putting them in their place ^.^
| shinyuhadouken said: True SE fans need to pick up a 360. Stop complaining all the time and blaming Japanese companies. None of you probably cared last gen with gamecube and xbox owners were suffering. |
There is alot more sony fanboy bitter tears, more than either losing system got last gen. Thats what happens when you go from first to last. I mean, look at the yankees. Every time they don't win the world series (much less miss the post season) the fans go nuts. They are used to being number one and the center of attention. This is how the sony fans were.
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| Aiemond said: Indeed. It is a good comedy piece. Why would publishers put their games on the ps3 when the dev costs are just as high as 360 ones and they can get similar sales on the amrket leader, wii. We have no evidence that it cannot shift software in japan, in fact it sells tons of software there. A cheap spinoff tales game there sold quite well and the only ps3 rpg we can really compare it to is a super hyped WKC. I think once all these wii rpgs that have been listed are released, they will compare well to ps3 rpgs of similar quality.
Wii will be the rpg king by the end of the gen and be leader at the start of the next. Iwata won't be an idiot and lose the marketshare like Nintendo did in the 64 era. |
Allegedly the costs are higher on the ps3. While art assets are on the same level of complexity in both platforms, the tech budget is apparently higher: complex platform, lack of support compared to, etc etc.
But that's besides the point.
The wii offers truly last gen budgets: art assets and tech development shouldn't be more expensive than it was for ps2 games. They'll probably need some extra man-hours to develop proper controls but that's it. As you mention, the Tales spinoff sold 80k more than Vesperia - it's quite the telling fact.
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Dear PS3 owners; You’ve made your bed, now lie in it. (HONEST article)
Well, I can see how you'd think it would be a smart investment to buy a PS3 to play jrpgs with. Given the long track record of the PS1&2 it only makes sense this would continue.
Just like with my 401k, I made wrong choices that seemed like a good idea at the time. Just as the value of my investments fell, so did the value of the PS3 as a jrpg platform. You made a bad investment, it's time to move on.
Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
— Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire
| Tyrannical said: Dear PS3 owners; You’ve made your bed, now lie in it. (HONEST article) Well, I can see how you'd think it would be a smart investment to buy a PS3 to play jrpgs with. Given the long track record of the PS1&2 it only makes sense this would continue. Just like with my 401k, I made wrong choices that seemed like a good idea at the time. Just as the value of my investments fell, so did the value of the PS3 as a jrpg platform. You made a bad investment, it's time to move on. |
I noticed that your gamertag is UKresistance. Isn't that the name of that website which periodically releases article berating the PS3?
@Everyone Else:
I have noticed a lot of users commenting that the Wii is ignored. Admittedly it is, this is because
A) This article was more of a response to SE statement from a few days ago.
B) The Wii is a bit of an unknown quantity, from what I've seen the JRPG's enjoy similar sales to PS3 JRPG's although it has a much larger userbase. However for other types of games it enjoys far larger sales.
That said, I haven't exactly scoured the internet in search of Wii JRPG sales in Japan so I may be wrong.
C) This article is about what could've happened, had developers supported the PS3 from the get go. There is no denying that the userbase of the PS3 would've been far more more substantial in Japan and consequently sales of games would've been far greater. Now the question is, can JRPG's on the Wii have more sales than that on the PS3? To that I would say maybe, although I would lean to it being slightly greater because of the much larger userbase. Now the problem is, what demographic exists on the Wii. We do know the Wii has a large amount of new gamers, and this is the problem with the Wii. Developers don't know what to make for it? Do they make traditional games? Or attempt to copy games like Wii-Fit etc.. There is no denying that there is a large amount of untapped potential there.
However if the developers had supported the PS3 from the beginning, they would have a platform with a comparable (maybe not larger, possibly even 2M less than the Wii right now) userbase to the Wii. That would've been a great platform to release their JRPG's on because they know that demographic is the same as the one that existed on the PS2/1. They would know their users.
Thats the general gist of the article.
PREDICTION:
60M PS3's by the end of it's Life Span (Anything between 5 to 10 years)
| Baki said:
I noticed that your gamertag is UKresistance. Isn't that the name of that website which periodically releases article berating the PS3? |
Periodically and religiously.
Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
— Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire
| CGI-Quality said: @ her |
Probably worse... because they probably would of discontinued the PS3. Sony has enough financial problems.
A 400 dollar Ps3. Which they would of been losing like what? 400 dollars on a piece? Even at the rates it sold it would of been disasterous. If it increased sales at all...
It would of ended up the way of the Dreamcast.
Baki said:
I noticed that your gamertag is UKresistance. Isn't that the name of that website which periodically releases article berating the PS3? @Everyone Else: I have noticed a lot of users commenting that the Wii is ignored. Admittedly it is, this is because A) This article was more of a response to SE statement from a few days ago. B) The Wii is a bit of an unknown quantity, from what I've seen the JRPG's enjoy similar sales to PS3 JRPG's although it has a much larger userbase. However for other types of games it enjoys far larger sales. That said, I haven't exactly scoured the internet in search of Wii JRPG sales in Japan so I may be wrong. C) This article is about what could've happened, had developers supported the PS3 from the get go. There is no denying that the userbase of the PS3 would've been far more more substantial in Japan and consequently sales of games would've been far greater. Now the question is, can JRPG's on the Wii have more sales than that on the PS3? To that I would say maybe, although I would lean to it being slightly greater because of the much larger userbase. Now the problem is, what demographic exists on the Wii. We do know the Wii has a large amount of new gamers, and this is the problem with the Wii. Developers don't know what to make for it? Do they make traditional games? Or attempt to copy games like Wii-Fit etc.. There is no denying that there is a large amount of untapped potential there. However if the developers had supported the PS3 from the beginning, they would have a platform with a comparable (maybe not larger, possibly even 2M less than the Wii right now) userbase to the Wii. That would've been a great platform to release their JRPG's on because they know that demographic is the same as the one that existed on the PS2/1. They would know their users. Thats the general gist of the article. |
Well for a comparison... the best selling JRPG in Japan on the Wii is...
Dragon Quest Swords. A half done port that got horrible reveiws.
The best selling RPG On the PS3 in japan is White Knight Chronicles. A highly publicized, super hyped game that was expensive game with average reviews.
Dragon Quest Swords outsold it by nearly 200K in Japan.
I think that's pretty telling.
Had the Japanese supported the PS3 from the beggining the PS3 wouldn't of gotten much boost at all. This is obvious due to the complete non boost the 360 really has seen.
The 360 alone had great JRPGS for so long yet nobody bought it... why?
Kasz216 said:
Well for a comparison... the best selling JRPG in Japan on the Wii is... Dragon Quest Swords. A half done port that got horrible reveiws. The best selling RPG On the PS3 in japan is White Knight Chronicles. A highly publicized, super hyped game that was expensive game with average reviews.
I think that's pretty telling. Had the Japanese supported the PS3 from the beggining the PS3 wouldn't of gotten much boost at all. This is obvious due to the complete non boost the 360 really has seen. The 360 alone had great JRPGS for so long yet nobody bought it... why? |
Japan doesn't accept the 360 because it's American, PS3 is not selling like it should because PS3 focused a lot on Western-oriented games and abandoned J-oriented games for too long (of course MS had something to do with it but it's Sony's fault too), and let's remember that the Japanese flagship Playstation titles are not out yet (Final Fantasy XIII and Gran Turismo 5), never in the history of Playstation those titles took so long in being released... And of course, the main element of all: THE PRICE...
| seece said: I'm sure they're happy rolling in the bank notes Microsoft supplied them. |
Yep, exactly what I said. Wada doesn't give two shits about the games tanking. MS paid good money for these games, and it was their loss.
SE lost lots of brand loyalty though. The SE name doesn't have the same pull it did years ago. And now devs are scrambling to make PS3 and Wii games because 360 development has proven so futile.
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