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akuma587 on 22 March 2009

Because being a troll is the best way to convince people to listen to you.



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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TheRealMafoo on 22 March 2009
akuma587 said:

Man, Mafoo is a professional at ignoring the facts. Nowhere in this article does it say that the administration has adopted these rules yet. And it says it is still being debated what they will actually be. So you are misrepresenting the entire scope of the debate. You can't criticize someone for doing something before they have actually done it.

Not to mention you are ignoring the fact that the only reason some of the "healthy" banks are alright is BECAUSE the government prevented a black hole from forming in the financial market. Do you really think all those banks would be "healthy" if Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had collapsed, or AIG had collapsed, or Citigroup had collapsed, or Bank of America had collapsed? These banks business models have their assets tied at the hip. If one goes down, it can bring everyone down with it.

Related poll on salary caps:

http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/stories/2009/02/09/daily59.html?ana=from_rss

Almost two-thirds of the responders to last week’s Business Pulse survey said executive salaries at companies receiving large amounts of federal bailout money should be capped at $500,000.

“Salaries should be capped when taxpayers foot the bill,” said 71 percent. “Let the free market determine compensation,” said 18 percent. “Let’s focus on the bigger issue of getting the country out of recession,” said 10 percent.

 

What Kabhold said. Big difference with tax payers money, and just publicly traded companies that receive no funding.

As for banks, yes, there are dozens in my town going strong. All because the loans they give are for farming, and farming is doing very well. The current bailouts have nothing to do with them.

 



TheRealMafoo on 22 March 2009
akuma587 said:
Because being a troll is the best way to convince people to listen to you.

 

Wrong thread? Have not seen a troll in this one.



pastro243 on 22 March 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
pastro243 said:
You dont seem to like Obama. Well, the world had to tolerate Bush for all those years, its your turn now. Besides, how does it affect you that AIG executive have lower salaries, they fuck up the economy and get saved by your goverment and still they get bonuses.

 

The world had to tolerate Bush hate threads for 8 years, it's your turn now.

As for the AIG bonuses, AIG had not choice. They were contractually obligated to reward those contracts (thanks to Dodd).

If I was president, I would not have bailed them out in the first place. I would have made them file bankruptcy, and the courts could have then regulated the hell out of them.

That's why bankruptcy exists, so government can bail out companies who can't make it on there own,  but in turn government gets to regulate how you run, so things like this don't happen. Just giving a corrupt company billions is a bad idea.


The world will keep hating Bush for long time, just as Nixon. And I doubt many will follow your anti Obama threads, I mean, the only ones who dislike Obama are Republicans, to the rest of the world or they like him or are indifferent. And the world wont listen to what republicans have to say, I think we had enought of them in the 8 years of Bush administration. :P

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MontanaHatchet on 22 March 2009
kabhold said:
TheRealMafoo said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Alright, whose idea was it to bring back the political flamebait fad? I thought this died back in 2008 but I guess some people love to get attention.

TheRealMafoo, you will continue to be wrong over and over, and it's only a matter of time until someone comes in here and points out just how wrong you are (as always). If you hate Obama and his "dictatorship" so much, why not actually do something productive about it? Move to another country, or even run for public office. But no, you have to make threads complaining about his policies on Vgchartz. What are you hoping to accomplish? Bait some other videogame enthusiasts into another tired political debate?

These sorts of threads definitely make Off Topic more interesting, but not necessarily better.

 

Odd, never saw you post this kind of thing with all the Bush hate threads. You have been on my ass with almost every Obama post. If you don't like them, don't read them.

And Akuma, this article is not just talking about Wall Street. It's talking about Wall Street, ALL BANKS, and possibly other companies.

And can you please link me an article that say's conservatives are for the government limiting executive pay of private companies, regardless of there financial situation?

Montana's bold-  That's unfair and unpatriotic...  If you don't like it shut up or get out.  That's backwards thinking.  Disgusting.

RealMafoo bold- Ya I agree.  He's the Democrat's rock star.  People adore this man.  But I understand, If it was Ron Paul I would feel the same way.

As for the topic... at a glance I hate it.  But I need to read more for a legitimate response.  I'll be back.

 

Unfair? Unpatriotic? Disgusting? Backwards thinking? I get it, you like to label everything. I was just providing examples of things that would be more productive than complaining on a videogames forum. And you didn't seem to have any problems with my idea of Mafoo running for public office, so you basically just cherry picked that one suggestion (of only two) to insult me. And Mafoo, I don't care about the Bush hate threads mainly because no one really cares about Bush. Your threads, on the other hand, are often nothing more than aggressive flamebait (time after time). You even said "welcome to the new dictatorship," and you're claiming that I'm the biased one?

 



 

 

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akuma587 on 22 March 2009

You either agree with Mafoo or you are wrong.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

TheRealMafoo on 22 March 2009
pastro243 said:
TheRealMafoo said:
pastro243 said:
You dont seem to like Obama. Well, the world had to tolerate Bush for all those years, its your turn now. Besides, how does it affect you that AIG executive have lower salaries, they fuck up the economy and get saved by your goverment and still they get bonuses.

 

The world had to tolerate Bush hate threads for 8 years, it's your turn now.

As for the AIG bonuses, AIG had not choice. They were contractually obligated to reward those contracts (thanks to Dodd).

If I was president, I would not have bailed them out in the first place. I would have made them file bankruptcy, and the courts could have then regulated the hell out of them.

That's why bankruptcy exists, so government can bail out companies who can't make it on there own,  but in turn government gets to regulate how you run, so things like this don't happen. Just giving a corrupt company billions is a bad idea.

 

The world will keep hating Bush for long time, just as Nixon. And I doubt many will follow your anti Obama threads, I mean, the only ones who dislike Obama are Republicans, to the rest of the world or they like him or are indifferent. And the world wont listen to what republicans have to say, I think we had enought of them in the 8 years of Bush administration. :P

I am not a Republican, I am a Libertarian. I didn't like Bush much either, but his faults were not to try and change what this country stands for, his faults was he was just an idiot.

Presidents come and go. The purpose of our constitution, is to make sure we are not ruled by men, but ruled by law. The person in the office is of little concern to me. What the office stands for is.

Bush did not try to change what the constitution meant, he just tried to manipulate the hell out of it for his own good. Trying to break the rules is what all powerful men will do (why we need the constitution), just going and changing the rules however, is very dangerous (what Obama is doing).



kabhold on 22 March 2009
MontanaHatchet said:
kabhold said:
TheRealMafoo said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Alright, whose idea was it to bring back the political flamebait fad? I thought this died back in 2008 but I guess some people love to get attention.

TheRealMafoo, you will continue to be wrong over and over, and it's only a matter of time until someone comes in here and points out just how wrong you are (as always). If you hate Obama and his "dictatorship" so much, why not actually do something productive about it? Move to another country, or even run for public office. But no, you have to make threads complaining about his policies on Vgchartz. What are you hoping to accomplish? Bait some other videogame enthusiasts into another tired political debate?

These sorts of threads definitely make Off Topic more interesting, but not necessarily better.

 

Odd, never saw you post this kind of thing with all the Bush hate threads. You have been on my ass with almost every Obama post. If you don't like them, don't read them.

And Akuma, this article is not just talking about Wall Street. It's talking about Wall Street, ALL BANKS, and possibly other companies.

And can you please link me an article that say's conservatives are for the government limiting executive pay of private companies, regardless of there financial situation?

Montana's bold-  That's unfair and unpatriotic...  If you don't like it shut up or get out.  That's backwards thinking.  Disgusting.

RealMafoo bold- Ya I agree.  He's the Democrat's rock star.  People adore this man.  But I understand, If it was Ron Paul I would feel the same way.

As for the topic... at a glance I hate it.  But I need to read more for a legitimate response.  I'll be back.

 

Unfair? Unpatriotic? Disgusting? Backwards thinking? I get it, you like to label everything. I was just providing examples of things that would be more productive than complaining on a videogames forum. And you didn't seem to have any problems with my idea of Mafoo running for public office, so you basically just cherry picked that one suggestion (of only two) to insult me. And Mafoo, I don't care about the Bush hate threads mainly because no one really cares about Bush. Your threads, on the other hand, are often nothing more than aggressive flamebait (time after time). You even "welcome to the new dictatorship," and you're claiming that I'm the biased one?

 

Sorry I wasn't trying to cherrypick your post or label you, but I do see how it looks like that.

So:

Not everyone has the time or desire for public office.

Not everyone who dislikes this country should move away.

I'm not sure of his previous posts or his feelings about Obama, nor do I care.  Because this seems to be a valid one.

I think it's subject to a healthy debate.  All I am seeing from you is calling his post flamebait, complaining that he posts, telling him that someone will prove him wrong, without once responding to the article or the topic.  Thanks for adding to the thread.

 



highwaystar101 on 22 March 2009

I always laugh at how republicans think everyone else is backwards when it is them who are backwards.



MontanaHatchet on 22 March 2009
kabhold said:
MontanaHatchet said:
kabhold said:
TheRealMafoo said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Alright, whose idea was it to bring back the political flamebait fad? I thought this died back in 2008 but I guess some people love to get attention.

TheRealMafoo, you will continue to be wrong over and over, and it's only a matter of time until someone comes in here and points out just how wrong you are (as always). If you hate Obama and his "dictatorship" so much, why not actually do something productive about it? Move to another country, or even run for public office. But no, you have to make threads complaining about his policies on Vgchartz. What are you hoping to accomplish? Bait some other videogame enthusiasts into another tired political debate?

These sorts of threads definitely make Off Topic more interesting, but not necessarily better.

 

Odd, never saw you post this kind of thing with all the Bush hate threads. You have been on my ass with almost every Obama post. If you don't like them, don't read them.

And Akuma, this article is not just talking about Wall Street. It's talking about Wall Street, ALL BANKS, and possibly other companies.

And can you please link me an article that say's conservatives are for the government limiting executive pay of private companies, regardless of there financial situation?

Montana's bold-  That's unfair and unpatriotic...  If you don't like it shut up or get out.  That's backwards thinking.  Disgusting.

RealMafoo bold- Ya I agree.  He's the Democrat's rock star.  People adore this man.  But I understand, If it was Ron Paul I would feel the same way.

As for the topic... at a glance I hate it.  But I need to read more for a legitimate response.  I'll be back.

 

Unfair? Unpatriotic? Disgusting? Backwards thinking? I get it, you like to label everything. I was just providing examples of things that would be more productive than complaining on a videogames forum. And you didn't seem to have any problems with my idea of Mafoo running for public office, so you basically just cherry picked that one suggestion (of only two) to insult me. And Mafoo, I don't care about the Bush hate threads mainly because no one really cares about Bush. Your threads, on the other hand, are often nothing more than aggressive flamebait (time after time). You even "welcome to the new dictatorship," and you're claiming that I'm the biased one?

 

Sorry I wasn't trying to cherrypick your post or label you, but I do see how it looks like that.

So:

Not everyone has the time or desire for public office.

Not everyone who dislikes this country should move away.

I'm not sure of his previous posts or his feelings about Obama, nor do I care.  Because this seems to be a valid one.

I think it's subject to a healthy debate.  All I am seeing from you is calling his post flamebait, complaining that he posts, telling him that someone will prove him wrong, without once responding to the article or the topic.  Thanks for adding to the thread.

 

Again, you're missing my point. These are only suggestons of things that would be more productive than complaining on Vgchartz's off topic section, not things he should actually do. I don't expect him to do either of those two, but they're be a lot more useful for achieving his goals than just sitting here and trying to stir up flamebait. And since you're spending your time here arguing with me, you're just detracting from the thread as well. Thanks for adding to the thread. Oh wait, that was crude sarcasm just like what you used. I'm doing a service, since I'm not interested in seeing stuff similar to what we saw back in 2008. Just search for some old political threads and tell me if you want a repeat of that.