^L4D2 DLC looks awesome! Ron and JPL we should try to get a big L4D2 session, I mainly only play it friday and saturday nights. Have you guys tried launching people to skywalk with the grenade launcher in survival? It's so fun and funny.

lol, I don't even know any of the quirky stuff like that yet Graham you'll have to tell me about it.

I wish we could get me, graham, ronster and eNamrah together in a game. Those bastards wouldn't stand a chance.

I still feel shamed that I haven't beaten a campaign on normal yet, but I don't completely suck its just hard to do that with bots, or it has been for me so far. I can make it up to the rescue no problem. It doesn't help how blood thirsty the director is this time around, the more so the better you are doing.

As for ODST I'm just going to grind through on heroic and call it a game. I don't think anyone I know is playing firefight... plus when MW2 gets here I can't imagine wanting Halo around.

I know what you mean by ODST's music score... It may be the best score this generation so far...

I have played about 1/2 into The Saboteur.  The gameplay is solid (based on Mercenaries 2 engine), the story is good, etc.  The only flaw is that nothing makes it stand out other than the opening cinematic that starts in a nude dance club re-enforcing that it is a mature themed game before you shoot anything.

^how is the virtual boobage?

I got sick of firefight >< although I really do love Halo ODST enemies and weapons, most FPS are just point, shoot, kill. You do this on ODST you'll find yourself in a rude awakening. If you see an engineer, chuck a sticky or else you'll waste all your ammo trying to kill it. Giant shield guy? Use the fuel rod or rocket launcher etc etc. Every gun has purpose and depth.

As for L4D2 we should get a 4 man versus game and rock the other team. I'm not sure if I could complete the campaigns on normal myself, with just me and a friend it took us a while to finish Dead Carnival (we were going for Gaurdin Gnome so that was part of the problem...)

Left 4 Dead 2 session sounds good.

I tried for the still somthing to prove and real deal achievement glitches on split screen with my buddy, once we got to the dead carnival finale i hopped up the scaffolding at the side of the stage, dropped a pipe bomb at my feet & presto......... with a few presses of Y i was in the jesus room (my buddy was already in there, i had to do all the donkey work first, turn lights on ect) anyway, the helicopter landed on the right side of the stage, me and my buddy took our adrenaline and jumped out the window, he got caught by a smoker immediately which left me a free path to the helicopter, boarded the helicopter but no achievement grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

In an achievement guide it says "return to main menu" but the only options are "return to lobby" or "exit to main menu" i returned to the lobby and did the finale again on expert and it still wont pop.

Anyway, if the glitch still works in online multiplayer & you fancy trying it let me know.

I know what you mean, LD42 campaigns on normal are no cake walk (i almost switched to easy myself after getting mauled when you trigger the alarm in the mall in dead centre) but i wanted a challenge so stuck with it.

Sounds like a good team you have assembled above too

Best time to do firefight now will be when the Halo: Reach multiplayer beta launches (i suspect lots of people will get their ODST copies back, myself included)

I still have some maps I need to do on firefight. So I can do those anytime somebody wants to do them.

I'll restart playing this week

I still have 2 more maps to do and the Endure achievement to get if anyone else is interested.