Edit, apparently something ate my post. Sad to hear about the MK thing, but I guess it makes sense. Its just confusing to me because all the people I know suck mega-hard with MK. To give you an idea of how hard I will just point out I beat most of them with Ike which at least gets around most of the priority. All the people I know who are good refuse to play MK because he is broken which leaves me just confused.

brawl+ has too much hitlag, if they fix it and make it pal viable then i'll play it.

Yeah, a PAL version is supposed to come soon.

For the hitlag, its a matter of taste. I dont think its that bad since teching is easy in Brawl. You can always tech out of any combos or just DI even with the highest hitlag.

@Gnizmo: Sorry, I don't have MK videos to show you, but I've played many metaknights and omg I hate them. But yeah, maybe VGchartz is not really a competitive place, but people should try this anyway. I mean, many of my friends were Brawl fanatics and disagreed on Brawl+ on almost everyway (they agreed that tripping was gay) but they totally changed their mind when they tried. The community will always make a game's lifespan much longer than expected and thats mostly thanks to the modding community.

Seriously, you guys should give this a try before setting your mind. It's not THAT different of an experience, it's just.. I can't really explain but for me, it was fun^^ I was playing Mario again and thought he was the good ol Mario that did tons of awesome stuff and was able to kill again.. *tears of joy* ^^

If people tells me that you think Brawl+ is total bullshit won't make me stop playing this thing ^^

EDIT: I edited the last line so it sounds more of a general statement.

If I had an SD card I'd try it out. but I don't and I'm too lazy to get one at the moment :P.

For people that wants to see some video of BETA 3.3+

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=227119

This project is really quite sad. They fixed a lot of Melee's problems in Brawl but it seems some people are still stuck in the past and wanting them back.

Meh, I think the characters in Brawl are way more balanced than in Melee.
In Melee, everyone in tournaments and such always ended up using either Fox or Sheik.

Obviously, you didn't read the whole thread. I expected better from you.

Now, excuse me while I'm actually having fun playing Brawl. In the meantime, I guess you can continue abusing Pikachu's D-Smash and win (with pride?). =P

Like I said before I don't have anything againt Brawl+, I'm even curious about the project but please stop making assumptions about regular Brawl. Pikachu's Down-Smash is very easy to DI out of and if you space yourself correctly you won't get hit to being with.

Hehe, you don't have to take it too personally, in fact, don't. I know WoW posted this on purpose. I was just referring to a match me and him did a few months ago. ;)

It's just fun to notice that he didn't take into account that Brawl+ is not trying to be Melee 2.0. The project is the best of both worlds, meaning you can have the fun with the items like in the old games, plus it fixes this "thing" the developers apparently missed.