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The thing is though he is right. Sony have said a lot recently to the press regarding both Microsoft and Nintendo. Remember the were 1st press release?
Nintendo and Microsoft have stayed quiet pretty much. They choose to speak only when NPD results come out.

Wether you agree with the guy or not he is right in that Sony is in decline across the board.
PS3 sold 280k last year with 1 game in the top 15 (DMC4). Where as this year even with its new titles in RE5,KZ2,SF4 etc etc it still dropped sales to 276k. Only a 4k drop but Sony had to spend a lot of money just to keep it as a 4k drop. With the numbers now returning to normal (50k a week or so) there is nothing on the cards to keep March from continuing the trend.
The PSP went from 243k last year to 199k this year. The PS2 went from 351k to 131k. Meaning in total compared to last year Sony has dropped 268k units. That is a 30% decline for Sony. While i can't be bothered to do the 360 numbers i can imagine they probably went up % seeing as it is the 2nd best non holiday month sales on record for the console.



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well i hope that the playstation brand stays around. they are going to say this whenever they say stuff like this there stock jumps up and they make money. if sony had the chance to say this they would jump at the opportunity.



he has nothing better to do. He wasted seconds of his life (which isn't worth much) by saying the PS2 sales are declining. OF COURSE THEY ARE. Does he expect them to go up? Did the xbox sales go up or down towards the end of it's life? What about the game cube?
What an idiot. He is just jealous that the PS3 sells well dipite carrying a price tag double that of the 360, wate until the price cut!



 


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Ah ah ah another PS3 is doomed article...

- PS3 sold more than 360 is you take the same period from launch, worldwide. It sold more in the first year, then sold more in the second year.

- Software sales recently were better on PS3 than on 360 : RE5 sold 55/45 PS3, and it's true for SF4 too, so it looks like PS3 is doing well actually. Don't forget that there were a lot of replacement consoles among the 360 sold, so the installed base gap is probably overrated, as the multiplat software sales show.

- If PS3 sells right now the same worldwide as the 360 while costing twice as much (it sells a bit less actually, but still), I don't see how it can be 'doomed'

Reality is both consoles are doing well (but are still far from Nintendo numbers) and it will continue. 360 will do ok because of the price, and PS3 will do ok because of its exclusives.



wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:
already posted....

hey dont beat the guy up... its his job to spin.

I know he's on your team so you're just trying to get his back, but the amount of smack he talks is excessive and deep down you must appreciate that.

 

 

It is. But when they're down they talk nonsense, and when they're up they talk smack. It's how PR is done. Since Sony is down, they talk the nonsense ("we're still the market leader") and MS talks smack ("We're up, you're down, neener neener").



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Wii leads PS3 by almost 30 million consoles,
X360 has a 8.15 million lead over PS3 in console sales and the gap will widen more and more.

Aaron is the man. RE5 is selling more on X360 in USA and UK and all English speaking countries.

X360 continues to outsell PS3 every week in world wide console sales, except for KZ2 launch week which was a fluke. 29 week wins out of past 30 weeks over its arch rival PS3 is great for X360.



@Tim_Duncan

The "PS3 is selling more with aligned launches" argument, while still relevant, is losing validity with each passing month. If you console launches late, you are expected to eventually compete with the competition in the current time frame, not the past. You cannot always use the "we launched a year late" excuse for the entire generation. The Wii was able to do it. Sony needs to start doing it as well.

Sony is doing fine, all things considered. Hardware sales are better that most people expected, software sales are great, and their lineup for the upcoming year looks better than the 360. Start competing in the present, not the past.



Jereel Hunter said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:
already posted....

hey dont beat the guy up... its his job to spin.

I know he's on your team so you're just trying to get his back, but the amount of smack he talks is excessive and deep down you must appreciate that.

 

 

It is. But when they're down they talk nonsense, and when they're up they talk smack. It's how PR is done. Since Sony is down, they talk the nonsense ("we're still the market leader") and MS talks smack ("We're up, you're down, neener neener").

You seem to miss my point.

I'm not talking about the nature of the PR, be it smack or nonsense.

I'm talking about the volume of the PR, and I just hope Greenberg doesn't repeat his antics from that period of 2008 where every other week he was top of N4G with some criticism of Sony.

 



Tim_Duncan said:
Ah ah ah another PS3 is doomed article...

- PS3 sold more than 360 is you take the same period from launch, worldwide. It sold more in the first year, then sold more in the second year.

- Software sales recently were better on PS3 than on 360 : RE5 sold 55/45 PS3, and it's true for SF4 too, so it looks like PS3 is doing well actually. Don't forget that there were a lot of replacement consoles among the 360 sold, so the installed base gap is probably overrated, as the multiplat software sales show.

- If PS3 sells right now the same worldwide as the 360 while costing twice as much (it sells a bit less actually, but still), I don't see how it can be 'doomed'

Reality is both consoles are doing well (but are still far from Nintendo numbers) and it will continue. 360 will do ok because of the price, and PS3 will do ok because of its exclusives.

 

 Head-to head battle since the PS3 and X360 were competing against each the X360 has beaten the Ps3 by around 2.45 million consoles in 2.5 years. X360 started with a lead of around 5.7 million when PS3 was launched.

The X360 gap over PS3 is widening every week and it is now 8.15 million and increasing over PS3. PS3 looks unlikely to outsell the X360 in total world wide console sales. PS3 has all of its third party exclusive titles except for MGS 4 which miraculously Sony held onto it.

PS3 sales have decreased year on year in comparison of the last four months ahev been down on the four months a year ago.  Sony is not in a financial position to afford a big price cut  say $100 on PS3 without bleeding financially. A small PS3 price cut of up to $50 which could be offset by increased software sales. It  would not change things dramatically in terms of sales but it would not damage the future of PS3.

PS3 has to rely on a handful of first party PS3 titles to sell the system for the future. X360 has first party titles of its own that are impressive and are as good in comparison to PS3 first party titles. Multi-platform titles are slightly better on X360.



WiiStation360 said:
@Tim_Duncan

The "PS3 is selling more with aligned launches" argument, while still relevant, is losing validity with each passing month. If you console launches late, you are expected to eventually compete with the competition in the current time frame, not the past. You cannot always use the "we launched a year late" excuse for the entire generation. The Wii was able to do it. Sony needs to start doing it as well.

Sony is doing fine, all things considered. Hardware sales are better that most people expected, software sales are great, and their lineup for the upcoming year looks better than the 360. Start competing in the present, not the past.

The further problem with this argument is that YOY, the 360 is outperforming it's previous sales, while the PS3 is underperforming it's own, therefor even if you aligned the launches, the 360 is trending positively vis-a-vis the PS3.

However, I agree, Sony is in no danger of suddenly disappearing.  They have to be careful (as all companies do in this market), but if Sony's goal is profit, not marketshare (as noted here), then they are on the right path.