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PS3/Sony fans spend too much time trying to convince the world to buy Blu-Ray and PS3. Lots of people have refuted the PS3 fans claims - it only takes one person to say Blu-Ray is a waste of money. Sony won the HD format war by default but guess what PS3 hammered in the console wars by Wii60-FTW.

Guess what majority of people do not care for Blu-Ray or PS3. Look at the console sales: PS3/Blu-Ray player is 21.4% market share. Non-PS3/ Non-Blu-Ray consoles are at 78.6%. It looks like PS3 is getting it handed to them this generation.

Blu-Ray will be superseded/ obsolete within a few years time. Nintendo and MS will have new consoles out while Sony is stuck with Blu-Ray and have to take it on the chin. MS and Nintendo would be working on developing better storage media players that will put Blu-Ray to shame. Blu-Ray will never be mainstream. most people I know in the real world do not care about Blu-Ray, DVD is enough for most people regardless if they own a HDTV or SDTV.



The public are not interested in HD at the moment.

In the UK we have the Analogue switchoff currently ongoing. Once that has been dealt with I guess you may get a few people interested but the majority couldnt care less.

The DVD BluRay battle today, is a very different animal to the VHS DVD battle, from ten years ago.



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Khuutra said:

DVD wasn't the first potential successor to VHS. Remember? LaserDisc was. It was supported by videophils too. It still crashed and burned.

Betamax was the choice of video and audiophiles for its superior sound and image quality. VHS curb-stomped it anyway because Joe Average decided it was easier to deal with VHS' tracking and non-tape-eating playerrs.

DVD Audio was the choice of audiophiles as the successor to the CD. Never got off the ground because right when it got to the point where it could have, people discovered MP3s, a decidedly inferior but much easier to use, cheaper, and smaller format.

I expect Blu-Ray will win over DVD in the future. It's inevitable at this point. If you think I'm arguing otherwise, you are missing my point spectacularly. The market shift is already happening. But if you think it's because "videophile" is necessarily synonymous with "early adopter", you are forgetting the burning corpses of every "superior" medium which Joe Average left smoldering in his wake, uncared for and largely unnoticed.

No.  Laserdisc came out in the late 70's (along with Betamax and VHS).  It NEVER reached more than 1 or 2% marketshare (and that was mainly in the US).  IT was a niche product.  You don't seem to know it's true, because you haven't done the research.  I have.  Packaged movie and music formats have been  been decided that way since the beginning.  It won't stop now just because YOU don't know this to be true.

 



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I buy more movies than anyone I know, and I have around 350 DVDs and only 4 Blu-rays.
The main problem is I can only play Blu-rays on my PS3, whereas I can watch DVDs on any of the 10 DVD players around my house, and with friends and relatives, none of whom have PS3s.

If Blu-ray is going to become the next standard, the price of Blu-ray players needs to reach the $100 range before digital downloads catch on. It will be interesting to see who wins that race.   Personally, I doubt that will happen, so I think some form of digital downloads will be the next standard.  Blu-rays will still exist even if that happens, but then so did LaserDisc, Betamax, UMD, etc.



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Bringing up MP3 is an interesting argument. It made me realize that for the first time in history people are actually listening to inferior quality music vs the previous decade. More and more people are ditching higher rez CDs for the convenience of being able to carry thousands of songs with them at any time. For me the same is true of SD video- its all just stored on my hard drive. I think with the every increasing size of hard drives and better encoders the same thing is likely to happen to BR.

I think things like Netflix Online and iTunes are the future because they are cheap, HD, and far more convenient.



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akuma587 said:
So people are surprised they didn't see Blu-Ray sales skyrocket (they did rise significantly) in the middle of the largest fourth quarter drop in GDP in over 25 years? How about you compare those numbers to how much DVD sales dropped.

 

They are when DVD sales exploded, to what I believe are the highest sales in the format's history. 

 

Blu-ray will be the new laser disc. Owned by the hardcore, while everybody else fails to care.

 

Oh, and DVD probably has at least another decade of life in it, before a new format arises to take it over. Maybe that will be blu-ray, but I highly doubt it. I think studios will abandon it within the next two years, as the sales are really starting to drop off. Blame the economy if you want, but that's not the biggest reason people don't want it, or care.



 

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sinha said:

I buy more movies than anyone I know, and I have around 350 DVDs and only 4 Blu-rays.
The main problem is I can only play Blu-rays on my PS3, whereas I can watch DVDs on any of the 10 DVD players around my house, and with friends and relatives, none of whom have PS3s.

If Blu-ray is going to become the next standard, the price of Blu-ray players needs to reach the $100 range before digital downloads catch on. It will be interesting to see who wins that race.   Personally, I doubt that will happen, so I think some form of digital downloads will be the next standard.  Blu-rays will still exist even if that happens, but then so did LaserDisc, Betamax, UMD, etc.

It was the same with DVD.  These are the same things brought up with EVERY major packaged movie successor (just check the links I provided, earlier in this thread, to VHS vs. DVD websites).

BTW, UMD is not a movie standard meant to  take over DVD or anything.  It's just the type of disc that PSP games and movies use.  In other words, UMD is NOT a movie standard...period.  Also, Laserdiscs and Betamax doesn't exist.  UMD will exist as long as the PSP does (movies are still put on UMD).

 



averyblund said:
Bringing up MP3 is an interesting argument. It made me realize that for the first time in history people are actually listening to inferior quality music vs the previous decade. More and more people are ditching higher rez CDs for the convenience of being able to carry thousands of songs with them at any time. For me the same is true of SD video- its all just stored on my hard drive. I think with the every increasing size of hard drives and better encoders the same thing is likely to happen to BR.

I think things like Netflix Online and iTunes are the future because they are cheap, HD, and far more convenient.

What happens WHEN that hard drive fails?  Then you have to either re-buy that DLC or re-download ALL OF IT.  That would mean you would need to have a back-up of the back-up and hope THAT back-up doesn't fail.

OR, you could just have the optical media that's scratch resistant and call it a day (or rip it to plenty of hard drives).