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SamuelRSmith on 19 March 2009
SciFiBoy said:
The Fury said:
Tyrannical said:
highwaystar101 said:
SciFiBoy said:
highwaystar101 said:
^ good idea, ten hours community service a week is not too much to ask really for people on the dole is it? I would do that if I was on the dole

 

i dont know about that, it implies that the unemployed are criminals, most of them arent

 

Most people who do community service aren't criminals you know. I used to do it when I was a teenager because I wanyed to. I've never commiyte crime I, like many other people, just wanted to pitch in.

Scifiboy doesn't want to have to work for his dole cheque. He's entitled to it.

 

Yes but as a tax payer, I'd like him to work to have it and not have it for nothing.

 

i do work, i do 2 days a week voulantry work

the point is that youre not giving people money for nothing (as the right wing media would have you believe) youre giving them money so theyre not out on the street scrounging for food or dead, youre also paying to help them find work, if you didnt pay them money, then you'd see ALOT (about 2m atm) more people scrounging for food on the streets, personally id rather thoose people had a basic standard of living

 

 

I'd prefer a system where if you're on unemployment benefits, you have to work 12 hours a week (six hours a day, two days a week), doing things like litter collection, road sweeping, etc.

It keeps our roads clean, cuts Government spending, and encourages people to actually look for jobs (that is, if they don't enjoy picking up cans on a beach).



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SamuelRSmith on 19 March 2009
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Kasz216 said:

You don't get your money back if you lose your political support.  Well thats a kick in the pants.

 

 

Well, it's to help prevent small, extremist parties, who wouldn't really be able to get much exteranal funding, from running. If you got your deposit back, anyone could just take out a loan and pay it back, no matter what their views. 

I don't see a problem with that.  Why shouldn't everyone get their say?

Personally I like the US way of doing things better.   You just need to get a number of signatures saying they'd like you to run.

Not people that would vote for you per say.  Just people who are interested in what you have to say.

 

 

Whereas I prefer it the way we do it. It's easy enough to get a bunch of racists to sign a piece of paper saying that they'll vote for the BNP, a smaller proportion of those racists would like to put their cash towards it.



Galaki on 19 March 2009

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Kasz216 on 19 March 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Kasz216 said:

You don't get your money back if you lose your political support.  Well thats a kick in the pants.

 

 

Well, it's to help prevent small, extremist parties, who wouldn't really be able to get much exteranal funding, from running. If you got your deposit back, anyone could just take out a loan and pay it back, no matter what their views. 

I don't see a problem with that.  Why shouldn't everyone get their say?

Personally I like the US way of doing things better.   You just need to get a number of signatures saying they'd like you to run.

Not people that would vote for you per say.  Just people who are interested in what you have to say.

 

 

Whereas I prefer it the way we do it. It's easy enough to get a bunch of racists to sign a piece of paper saying that they'll vote for the BNP, a smaller proportion of those racists would like to put their cash towards it.

That system is dispropotionatly disenfranchising towards the poor however.

 

 



SamuelRSmith on 19 March 2009
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Kasz216 said:

You don't get your money back if you lose your political support.  Well thats a kick in the pants.

 

 

Well, it's to help prevent small, extremist parties, who wouldn't really be able to get much exteranal funding, from running. If you got your deposit back, anyone could just take out a loan and pay it back, no matter what their views. 

I don't see a problem with that.  Why shouldn't everyone get their say?

Personally I like the US way of doing things better.   You just need to get a number of signatures saying they'd like you to run.

Not people that would vote for you per say.  Just people who are interested in what you have to say.

 

 

Whereas I prefer it the way we do it. It's easy enough to get a bunch of racists to sign a piece of paper saying that they'll vote for the BNP, a smaller proportion of those racists would like to put their cash towards it.

That system is dispropotionatly disenfranchising towards the poor however.

 

 

 

Not particularly. After all, the poor are in the greater numbers, and so smaller donations will be in greater numbers (plus huge donations from trade unions). Also, the fact that the poor are in greater numbers means that the party are likely to get the minimum required number of votes to get the deposit back.

If the system did have a huge negative-effect on the poor, we wouldn't have the extensive welfare system that we currently have.



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SciFiBoy on 19 March 2009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_England

this party seem pretty good, closer to my views than any others ive seen anyway



SamuelRSmith on 19 March 2009

I was into the Greens until I realised that they're all a bunch of saps with no charisma.



SciFiBoy on 19 March 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
I was into the Greens until I realised that they're all a bunch of saps with no charisma.

 

lol, how you know that?



SamuelRSmith on 19 March 2009

Just watching videos, Lucas is the only interesting member (party leader), the rest are just irritating.



SciFiBoy on 19 March 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
Just watching videos, Lucas is the only interesting member (party leader), the rest are just irritating.

 

oh right, there the only party i can find who are close to my own views though