um ive seen many many sdtv's in alot of different stores and HDtv's no one is buying that often cause guess what if you have a tube tv and have bout it within the last ten years your not going out to buy a new HDTV especially if their tube tv is still in perfect working order. i have a 33" tube tv that is sdtv compatible and had it for about 4 years now and i might buy an HDTV in 2011 or 2012 when the prices are very reasonable. this is why the wii is destroying the ps3 at the moment. isnt the newest pc's upwards around 6-8ghz? with thei duel and quad core's? so yeah were all rednecks if we own tube tv's now huh. that is just a dumb observation.

PSP increased almost 50% from 222 to 333.  That's not just 10%.

Not having 1080p means your store is worthless, I agree there.  More HDTVs are bought now than SDTVs the last I checked, and I expect that to keep favoring HDTV more and more.  

You do not need an HDTV to enjoy the PS3 and see that the graphics are better than the Wii ( as I can attest personally).  The difference is that HDTV makes PS3 games look even better, whereas Wii games will not.

As for the person that says the XBox and Wii are not comparable...ugh...we have had this argument before but there are developers that have said they are about equal in power.  Sometimes spec numbers matter. 

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"More HDTVs are bought now than SDTVs the last I checked, and I expect that to keep favoring HDTV more and more. "

we don't stock 1080p because we get very few requests for them. It takes shelf space and money from our inventory budget to stock them. Besides, its not like any of us has a say. Corporate has crunched the numbers and they are the ones not supplying us with any. We still sell plenty of 720p tv and plenty of Sdtv. the occasional 1080i tv is thrown in to boot. Saying more HDTV are sold is not the same as saying more 1080p tvs are sold than every thing else. 1080p is still expensive enough to be more out of reach for many people. 720p tv, in smaller sizes in particular, are not much more than many of the SDtvs that we sell. That is why those models sell. I expect that in about 6 months we might start carrying them if the price drops enough.

Gaming is a hobby. A TV is a luxury item, in that you do not need it to continue your survival. 1080p is far from affordable to the average person, and often that money is needed elsewhere. I really don't see it as "pathetic," "worthless," or "redneck backwoods" to not emphasize an expensive luxury item in our stores' inventory.

I guess my main point here is I dont care about your store, whereever you work.  Imo 1080p is the only HDTV to get, despite the cost difference.

Now, you may disagree, but the facts are that HDTVs of all kinds are outselling SDTVs now.  HDTVs are not the problem going forward. 

Makes me wonder how a topic starting with regards to chip size somehow moves onto TV sets...

 Well yes and no, the dye size shrinkage is theoretical due to the fact the smallest dyes we have right now is 45nm thanks to intel. IBM had the cell at a stable 6.7GHz in perfect conditions which means real world it can only do that with flash freezing, about 5GHz with liquid, and maybe with air cooling about 3.6 or 3.8GHz without damage to the system

 The fact that Sony could willingly uping the clock could easily happen. Its just a matter of time. Common PC knowledge knows that If I went into the bios of my laptop right now I can take the processor (P4 3.4GHz) and clock it to 3.6GHz with just slight worries of overheating due to the horrid air flow. The PS3 has a damn 100mm fan as a heatsink with a really nice heatpipe configuration so there would be no real heat issues as remember that the PS3 can handle a lot of heat. So expect a possible increase in speed for the cell, and maybe driver upgrade for the RSX (OpenGL Long Peak with DX10 like features). 

On the 8th SPE question I see floating around the thread. Its not possible. Some PS3s dont even have the 8th SPE installed, let alone one that tested to be fully functional or a cell processor that yielded a perfect 8 working SPEs (last year they werent having much luck with having the cell even have 7 SPEs working).

I, too, thought we were done with this argument, but apparently some people still don't know the difference between a PowerPC and a Celeron.

@ssj: All the Cell chips have the 8th SPE "installed", as in the silicon is present, but all of the ones in PlayStation 3s have one SPE disabled to reduce the cost for Sony.  Essentially, chips that are found to have a defect in only one SPE are sold to Sony at a reduced cost with that unit disabled.  But you're right, a firmware patch to enable the 8th SPE is not going to happen.  I also highly doubt that an overclock patch is going to happen.  Any amount of increase in the clock speed that would make a noticeable difference in games would consume too much power for the current design of the console.  They could probably safely bump the clock speed by 5, maybe even 10%, but why bother when it would hardly make a difference?

@1080p: I agree that if you're buying an HDTV, you should buy a 1080p HDTV.  Why spend a bunch of money on a brand new HDTV and not watch it in full HD resolution?  However, I think now is a bad time to buy a 1080p display, because they are still too expensive.  I also know from polling that a surprisingly large number of customers aren't buying HDTVs for the resolution, they're buying because you can now get a 50 inch big screen without getting a crappy projection set from 5-10 years ago.  They're buying because they're getting a big, flat, easy to carry TV with a great picture, they don't care about pixels.  The 1080p-enabled consumer segment will grow in the next 4 years, but it won't grow enough to suddenly put Sony and MS on top.

No way they are going to up the clock of the cell. For starters, doing so would likely shorten the life of the PS3 for various reasons. Secondly, this would assuredly increase the failure rate and get into all sorts of messy things with the warranty for Sony. This would just be stupid for them to do.

An update for the RSX that supports DX10 like features isn't likely to happen. For starters, adding support for features that the hardware can't support is pretty stupid. Seconfly, working on a console GPU is different than a PC and time spent getting long peak like support would be worthless when you could advance the state of PS3 developer kits and get far more rewarding returns.

1080p is pretty useless for anything 40inch or smaller in most homes. Oddly enough, its those 40inch and smaller sets that sell best.

 didnt the slight increase for the PSP show a good amount of difference. I figure any amount of increase would make devs happier. 

Please read the other posts. It's been said several times that there was no "overclocking" with teh PSP, just that the chip was designed to run at 333mhz and the recent firmware allowed this. For the record, it was a 50% increase in clock speed, no 3.2 to 3.4.