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  After asking about the 65nm PS3 I began to wonder if this version might improve some of the frame rate issues with current PS3s.  According to the Ars Technica article linked below the 65nm Cell will be able to have a maximum clock speed of 6 Ghz.  If this is the case when they release new versions of the PS3 with the 65nm Cell will these machines run faster?  If they do will just increasing the clock speed resolve frame rate issues on old games or is this problem related to other system elements that are not adjustable? 

 

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070313-ibm-starts-65nm-cell-production.html 



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6GHZ? Not even a computer can run that fast O_O

WTH? Isnt the 65nm chip to lower the cost of the ps3, and its the same cell chip just smaller?



 

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what issues?

WTF are you talking about.



6 Ghz? Oh no, are they pulling an IGN and adding clock speeds together or something?


OK, I read the article. *shakes my head* Sony won't drop in a new CPU like this. They'd divide developers who have the old CPU SDK and those with the new CPU SDK and would also divide gamers and we know Sony doesn't want to do that considering their philosophy behind standard HDD's in all SKU's.



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smallflyingtaco said:

After asking about the 65nm PS3 I began to wonder if this version might improve some of the frame rate issues with current PS3s. According to the Ars Technica article linked below the 65nm Cell will be able to have a maximum clock speed of 6 Ghz. If this is the case when they release new versions of the PS3 with the 65nm Cell will these machines run faster? If they do will just increasing the clock speed resolve frame rate issues on old games or is this problem related to other system elements that are not adjustable?

 

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070313-ibm-starts-65nm-cell-production.html


 In other news Sony is now shipping a liquid nitrogen cooling solution with the PS3 to accomodate the 6ghz clock speed.

 Please, learn something about PC hardware before you talk.



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xbebop said:
 

In other news Sony is now shipping a liquid nitrogen cooling solution with the PS3 to accomodate the 6ghz clock speed.

Please, learn something about PC hardware before you talk.


 I will ignore the attitude and respond politely.  That number, assuming it is from IBM, is probably a theoretical maximum of improved frequency from lower voltage and shorter distances.  If that is the maximum, yes initial improvements will be more moderate.  Yeah, if you assume that the future will never exceed a 2004 Prescott your going to need liquid NO2 to hit 6 Ghz but that assumption does not seem to be wise as it has already been exceed with liquid NO2, I think the limit is a tad above 8 Ghz currently.  The more interesting question, which one opinion has been kindly provided, is if this will be available in future PS3 or if it will be caped either in software or hardware so that new versions do not take advantage of it.  If your an EE great, keep it civil.



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Hus said:
WTF are you talking about.


 Doesn´t happen too much, but its good to see that I can agree with Hus sometimes....WTF ????



 

 

 

smallflyingtaco said:
xbebop said:
 

In other news Sony is now shipping a liquid nitrogen cooling solution with the PS3 to accomodate the 6ghz clock speed.

Please, learn something about PC hardware before you talk.


I will ignore the attitude and respond politely. That number, assuming it is from IBM, is probably a theoretical maximum of improved frequency from lower voltage and shorter distances. If that is the maximum, yes initial improvements will be more moderate. Yeah, if you assume that the future will never exceed a 2004 Prescott your going to need liquid NO2 to hit 6 Ghz but that assumption does not seem to be wise as it has already been exceed with liquid NO2, I think the limit is a tad above 8 Ghz currently. The more interesting question, which one opinion has been kindly provided, is if this will be available in future PS3 or if it will be caped either in software or hardware so that new versions do not take advantage of it. If your an EE great, keep it civil.


 The thing is, the 45nm Penryn C2D chips won't even get anywhere near 6ghz. At least not without melting shortly after.



El Duderino said:
Hus said:
WTF are you talking about.


Doesn´t happen too much, but its good to see that I can agree with Hus sometimes....WTF ????


 Sorry if this was not clear.  I was referring to recent reviews of games, such as Madden and Lair, that the frame rate occasionally drops below an acceptable level.  



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^^ Thats ok, I´m no tech expert, just seemed very funny, I was always under the impression that frame rate issues where a problem cause by a game and the way it was programmed, not the console itself....