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papflesje on 21 March 2009

@ teris: it's not really fair to compare a cutscene to whatever happens in the gameplay. I doubt anyone would find the game enjoyable if they got whacked by a single shot each and every time. Isara getting shot with a single round, making it impossible to quickly protect her from other incoming rounds, made perfect sense. And I'm with Auron on this one, it's a very important part of the story.

1) it gives us an amazing song :p
2) it gives you a beautiful link to the absolute end of the game
3) it ties in chars you have encountered before with the storyline afterwards
4) it gave her dream the perfect push for it to become important at the end of the story.

It wasn't a scene just to make people care about her more or something, it actually developed the game and its story. I wouldn't say that the impact was as big as Aeris'/Aerith's death but it did launch the game into another gear, and gave the "war" an even more grim outlook (since casualties alway happen, even though you try your best to avoid them).



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bugrimmar on 21 March 2009

i still think that the death was completely unnecessary, aside from moving me to tears.



papflesje on 21 March 2009

it brings the team together once and for all. It also brings in her dream and ties it up with two chars that were introduced in the beginning (the tech dudes) and brings them into the storyline to round up everyone around the squad for the final part of the game. Seems like a good enough storyline event then.



Final-Fan on 21 March 2009

The team was coming together anyway, I mean Rosie was already taking the doll. Maybe it would have taken a bit longer but not by much.



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Final-Fan on 21 March 2009

But as for the "killed in one shot" thing, it's very reasonable. Consider the following:

1. It's a sniper rifle. Headshots will kill any unit except bosses. I believe the cinematic showed a body shot, but if we call that artistic license then the following points aren't even necessary.

2. It was a new experimental rifle and bullet, so it may have been abnormally powerful.

3. Isara is a tank driver; I would expect her to have the HP/DEF of an engineer at best

4. Whatsisname may have been at a high level, giving his shot more power (I think).



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outlawauron on 21 March 2009
Final-Fan said:
But as for the "killed in one shot" thing, it's very reasonable. Consider the following:

1. It's a sniper rifle. Headshots will kill any unit except bosses. I believe the cinematic showed a body shot, but we call that artistic license then the following points aren't even necessary.

2. It was a new experimental rifle and bullet, so it may have been abnormally powerful.

3. Isara is a tank driver, I would expect her to have the HP/DEF of an engineer at best

4. Whatsisname may have been at a high level, giving his shot more power (I think).

Thank you. It's perfectly reasonable.

I would black out the name of the one kiled!



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Final-Fan on 21 March 2009
outlawauron said:
Final-Fan said:
But as for the "killed in one shot" thing, it's very reasonable. Consider the following:

1. It's a sniper rifle. Headshots will kill any unit except bosses. I believe the cinematic showed a body shot, but we call that artistic license then the following points aren't even necessary.

2. It was a new experimental rifle and bullet, so it may have been abnormally powerful.

3. Isara is a tank driver, I would expect her to have the HP/DEF of an engineer at best

4. Whatsisname may have been at a high level, giving his shot more power (I think).
Thank you. It's perfectly reasonable.
I would black out the name of the one kiled!

Well, I believe the cat was let out of the bag on the first page (50), but I'll do it anyway since this is a new page.

But I blacked out more than just the name!  There's only one tank driver we ever see until she gets replaced. 



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outlawauron on 21 March 2009
Final-Fan said:
outlawauron said:
Final-Fan said:
But as for the "killed in one shot" thing, it's very reasonable. Consider the following:

1. It's a sniper rifle. Headshots will kill any unit except bosses. I believe the cinematic showed a body shot, but we call that artistic license then the following points aren't even necessary.

2. It was a new experimental rifle and bullet, so it may have been abnormally powerful.

3. Isara is a tank driver, I would expect her to have the HP/DEF of an engineer at best

4. Whatsisname may have been at a high level, giving his shot more power (I think).
Thank you. It's perfectly reasonable.
I would black out the name of the one kiled!

Well, I believe the cat was let out of the bag on the first page (50), but I'll do it anyway since this is a new page.

But I blacked out more than just the name!  There's only one tank driver we ever see until she gets replaced. 

I know, but at least, this way we aren't directly saying it.



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Final-Fan on 21 March 2009

... That's like saying it's okay to say "wasn't it sad when Sephiroth killed that flower girl?" but not okay to say THAT NAME.



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bugrimmar on 21 March 2009

hey, i never mentioned the name on the OP either!

i just said "an infamous death scene", and anyway i labelled the thread title as spoilers (the title is already obviously indicative of the type of discussion).