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Infamy79 on 18 March 2009
Soul_tech10 said:
CMoney said:
It is ridiculous to compare sony's financial situation with microsoft.

Sony has NEVER MADE A PROFIT ON THE PS3!!!

Sony also has 7 billion dollars in debt whereas microsoft has never had 1 penny of debt in the company's history

 

oh really? Well look at this!

                Sony                  Nintendo                    Microsoft                     Industry
1998    1,253,000,000      809,000,000                                           2,062,000,000
1999    1,431,000,000      817,000,000                                           2,248,000,000
2000    900,000,000         519,000,000                                           1,419,000,000
2001    -488,000,000        866,000,000                                           378,000,000
2002    731,000,000         939,000,000       -880,000,000               790,000,000
2003    1,076,000,000      642,000,000       -1,365,000,000            353,000,000
2004    731,000,000         355,000,000       -1,367,000,000           -281,000,000
2005    440,000,000         846,000,000       -528,000,000               758,000,000
2006    79,000,000           942,000,000       -1,329,000,000           -308,000,000
2007   -1,969,000,000     1,489,000,000     -1,892,000,000           -2,372,000,000
2008   -1,254,000,000     2,480,000,000     532,000,000                1,758,000,000

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284797&page=4

 

The industry was fine before M$ came in!

Ummm, you do know that we've had more than just these three companies making consoles in the past decade. I think you're forgetting some figures there. 



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Squilliam on 18 March 2009
  Sony     Nintendo      Microsoft        Industry
Y/E 1998     $902,811,090   $1,023,333,867                      $1,926,144,957
Y/E 1999   $1,102,563,557   $1,301,350,000                      $2,403,913,557
Y/E 2000     $722,738,949   $1,368,207,547                      $2,090,946,497
Y/E 2001    -$449,776,290     $677,576,000                        $227,799,710
Y/E 2002     $629,101,056     $895,872,180   -$1,135,000,000      $389,973,237
Y/E 2003     $935,569,253     $834,333,333   -$1,191,000,000      $578,902,586
Y/E 2004     $627,195,212     $993,161,303   -$1,337,000,000      $283,356,515
Y/E 2005     $419,888,799   $1,056,056,202     -$539,000,000      $936,945,001
Y/E 2006      $69,129,058     $774,478,055   -$1,339,000,000     -$495,392,887
Y/E 2007  -$1,970,923,859   $1,914,666,388   -$1,969,000,000   -$2,025,257,471
Y/E 2008  -$1,079,994,103   $4,322,637,887      $426,000,000    $3,668,643,783

Y/E 09Q1      $51,113,208   $1,124,452,830      $178,000,000    $1,353,566,038
Y/E 09Q2    -$379,471,154   $1,278,759,615      $151,000,000    $1,050,288,462
Y/E 09Q3       $4,395,604   $2,737,879,121                             

Total
   $1,584,340,380  $20,302,764,330   -$6,755,000,000   $12,389,829,985

Full Year Average
     $173,482,066   $1,378,333,888   -$1,012,000,000      $907,815,953

Profitable Years
8 11    1      9

Non Profitable Years
3 0    6      2

Average in Loss Year
  -$1,166,898,084        N/A   -$1,251,666,667   -$1,260,325,179

Average in Profit Year
     $676,124,622   $1,378,333,888      $426,000,000    $1,389,625,094


Tease.

PSwii60 on 18 March 2009

MicroSoft should buy 51% share of Sony's and discontinue PS3
 
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Bullet100000 on 18 March 2009

I would have to say:A



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Darc Requiem on 18 March 2009
BladeOfGod said:
Darc Requiem said:
Soul_tech10 said:
CMoney said:
It is ridiculous to compare sony's financial situation with microsoft.

Sony has NEVER MADE A PROFIT ON THE PS3!!!

Sony also has 7 billion dollars in debt whereas microsoft has never had 1 penny of debt in the company's history

 

oh really? Well look at this!

                Sony                  Nintendo                    Microsoft                     Industry
1998    1,253,000,000      809,000,000                                           2,062,000,000
1999    1,431,000,000      817,000,000                                           2,248,000,000
2000    900,000,000         519,000,000                                           1,419,000,000
2001    -488,000,000        866,000,000                                           378,000,000
2002    731,000,000         939,000,000       -880,000,000               790,000,000
2003    1,076,000,000      642,000,000       -1,365,000,000            353,000,000
2004    731,000,000         355,000,000       -1,367,000,000           -281,000,000
2005    440,000,000         846,000,000       -528,000,000               758,000,000
2006    79,000,000           942,000,000       -1,329,000,000           -308,000,000
2007   -1,969,000,000     1,489,000,000     -1,892,000,000           -2,372,000,000
2008   -1,254,000,000     2,480,000,000     532,000,000                1,758,000,000

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284797&page=4

 

The industry was fine before M$ came in!

That's nice but you did not read the post you quoted. CMoney said that MS never had a penny of debt. The numbers you are quoting the Microsofts Entertainment Division. Even with those losses, the company still posted a profit over all. MS is not in debt. Sony is however. They took out an 800 million dollar loan shortly before the PS3's launch and have since sold their interest in the Cell, along with the it's manufacturing plants to Toshiba.

 

That's nice but you might wanna know what does the VG chartz means:

VIDEO GAME chartz

We are talking about  Nintendo, Sony Computer Entertaiment and Microsoft Gaming Division ONLY

(at least i think we do)

Whether or not you like what CMoney said, it was accurate. Soul_Tech's response didn't address his post and neither did yours.

 



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slowmo on 18 March 2009

When you're quoting figures regarding the potential bankrupcy of a company then the global figures for that company are more valid that merely a gaming division. Even if this is a video games sales discussion forum, you cannot just ignore that Microsoft's entire strategy up till recently has been to use the other parts of its business to prop up the xbox endeavour, hence you should be quoting figures for the full companies involved.



Staude on 18 March 2009

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theprof00 on 18 March 2009

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Darc Requiem on 18 March 2009
slowmo said:
When you're quoting figures regarding the potential bankrupcy of a company then the global figures for that company are more valid that merely a gaming division. Even if this is a video games sales discussion forum, you cannot just ignore that Microsoft's entire strategy up till recently has been to use the other parts of its business to prop up the xbox endeavour, hence you should be quoting figures for the full companies involved.

/this

 



theprof00 on 18 March 2009

"release another halo game"?