cloud and sephiroth
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It's not that specifically, it's the lack of variety of opinions on vgchartz.  This is one of them involved.  Almost everytime something good is said about FF7 on a topic title or even involving FF7 in anyway, the same posters will go in there and give their extremely subjective opinion on the matter and won't accept anyone else's opinion other than their own.  They won't even argue objectively, they practically refuse and will constantly hound out anything good about FF7.    I'm not saying anything negative said about FF7 shouldn't be said, I'm saying that if it is going to be said negatively, back it up 100% objectively or don't say anything.  This goes with any game, subject, character etc.

If something is said positively about any game, it's actually ok to say anything subjective about it then.  Because it doesn't directly harm anyone.  If it offends you indirectly, that's your own fault and should learn to ignore it.  For instance:

 Let's say that I say "FF7 is the best game ever".  It's subjective, but it doesn't offend anyone directly because it's a positive thought as opposed to "FF7 is the most overrated game ever".  Both are direct sentences but only the first one is positive.  To say that you are offended by "FF7 is the best game ever" by saying that "it was stated in a factual preference instead of an opinion manner, so it offends me" tells me that you're just looking for an arguement.  This is the internet, it's obvious that people are going to say stuff like that, it's how internet culture works.  Although it is preferable to state IMO around statements like "X game is the best ever".  Which should be done everytime if possible. 

Is it so hard for members of vgchartz to just lay off of other people's opinions and voice theirs objectively?

Alright, my real choices:

Riku and the entire OrgXIII (except for Axel) from Kingdom Hearts

and those are really all, the rest I hate most others hate...

No, you don't apply subjective standards to positive words ando bjective standards to negative ones! That doesn't make any sense.

Negativity is fine.

You can't voice opinions objectively, that's.... well it's just literally impossible when it comes to the interpretation of art.

^^ so are you blaming of defending me @ Swyg

This is one of the funniest/strangest replies I've ever seen to a thread like this. It's talking about the most overrated, and he simply gave the characters that fit the bill for him. You're asking him to go down his list to find ones that aren't mentioned as often? Then you're defeating the purpose of the thread.

Oh, yeah, as if you ever trusted me, right?

I've said it countless times that I've never liked FF9. I don't hate the game, but for it was a step backwards from FF7 and FF8. And I really felt the story and characters were mediocre (which is my main reason for not liking it, since the rest was ok)

Funny thing, I used to think Cloud and Seph were overrated, but the ammount of hate that surrounds them on the internet today kind of balances the praise out, don't you think? So now I think they are rated just fine.

I said that you could, you don't have to.  Flame wars excel at subjective negative opinions. 

The downside to the rules I applied is that this place would be slightly boring.  Maybe it's because it's in human nature for certain entertainment to voice negatives.  Pain is a driving force, but maybe humans should just start to settle down and stop thinking about the next big thing.   

Completely off topic:  Are some reasons wars start in the world just out of boredom?  Just something to think about.