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Spankey on 13 March 2009
twesterm said:
RVDondaPC said:
Everyone that talks about the price forgets that it was impossible to predict that the whole worlds economy would collapse like it did when the PS3 was launched let alone the years leading up to it as the decisions were being made in it's development stage. Even at it's high price tag it's managed to put up a fight selling more consoles faster than the 360. In hingsight it was the wrong decision but at the time it was very much a good decision. Had the world's economy stayed as it was the PS3 would be doing much better. I doubt it would have beaten the Wii but it would have been a bit closer.

 

When do you think the PS3 launched and when do you think the economy went to hell?  I assure you, the economy had nothing to do with the first 2 1/2 years of the PS3's life, people just didn't want to spend $600 on a toy.

 

...yet some will spend it on a phone.



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twesterm on 13 March 2009
Spankey said:
twesterm said:
RVDondaPC said:
Everyone that talks about the price forgets that it was impossible to predict that the whole worlds economy would collapse like it did when the PS3 was launched let alone the years leading up to it as the decisions were being made in it's development stage. Even at it's high price tag it's managed to put up a fight selling more consoles faster than the 360. In hingsight it was the wrong decision but at the time it was very much a good decision. Had the world's economy stayed as it was the PS3 would be doing much better. I doubt it would have beaten the Wii but it would have been a bit closer.

 

When do you think the PS3 launched and when do you think the economy went to hell?  I assure you, the economy had nothing to do with the first 2 1/2 years of the PS3's life, people just didn't want to spend $600 on a toy.

 

...yet some will spend it on a phone.

 

Yeah, and obviously some people spent it on the PS3 (and the iPhone was never $600 retail) but that still doesn't mean most people will spend that much on a toy.

And at least in defense of something like the iPhone, it is more than just a toy and has legitimate uses beyond being a toy.

 



 

markers on 13 March 2009

id say it can squeeze 75million consoles by the time its through



Spankey on 13 March 2009
twesterm said:
Spankey said:
twesterm said:
RVDondaPC said:
Everyone that talks about the price forgets that it was impossible to predict that the whole worlds economy would collapse like it did when the PS3 was launched let alone the years leading up to it as the decisions were being made in it's development stage. Even at it's high price tag it's managed to put up a fight selling more consoles faster than the 360. In hingsight it was the wrong decision but at the time it was very much a good decision. Had the world's economy stayed as it was the PS3 would be doing much better. I doubt it would have beaten the Wii but it would have been a bit closer.

 

When do you think the PS3 launched and when do you think the economy went to hell?  I assure you, the economy had nothing to do with the first 2 1/2 years of the PS3's life, people just didn't want to spend $600 on a toy.

 

...yet some will spend it on a phone.

 

Yeah, and obviously some people spent it on the PS3 (and the iPhone was never $600 retail) but that still doesn't mean most people will spend that much on a toy.

And at least in defense of something like the iPhone, it is more than just a toy and has legitimate uses beyond being a toy.

 

 

In defence of consoles, and the PS3 in particular, they can also have legitimate uses beyond toys too. PS3's being linked and used as cheap supercomputers for starters.

Anyway, I think I'm getting off topic now.



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twesterm on 13 March 2009
Spankey said:
twesterm said:
Spankey said:
twesterm said:
RVDondaPC said:
Everyone that talks about the price forgets that it was impossible to predict that the whole worlds economy would collapse like it did when the PS3 was launched let alone the years leading up to it as the decisions were being made in it's development stage. Even at it's high price tag it's managed to put up a fight selling more consoles faster than the 360. In hingsight it was the wrong decision but at the time it was very much a good decision. Had the world's economy stayed as it was the PS3 would be doing much better. I doubt it would have beaten the Wii but it would have been a bit closer.

 

When do you think the PS3 launched and when do you think the economy went to hell?  I assure you, the economy had nothing to do with the first 2 1/2 years of the PS3's life, people just didn't want to spend $600 on a toy.

 

...yet some will spend it on a phone.

 

Yeah, and obviously some people spent it on the PS3 (and the iPhone was never $600 retail) but that still doesn't mean most people will spend that much on a toy.

And at least in defense of something like the iPhone, it is more than just a toy and has legitimate uses beyond being a toy.

 

This depends too on what you mean by most people. 100kk consoles sold this gen to a population of around 5 billion isn't too impressive either. it's all relative. Pedantic, i know.

In defence of consoles, and the PS3 in particular, they can also have legitimate uses beyond toys too. PS3's being linked and used as cheap supercomputers for starters.

Anyway, I think I'm getting off topic now.

 

How many PS3's sold do you think are used as super computers?  Less 1%?

How many iPhones, Blackberry's, and other smart phones are used for business purposes or something other than just expensive cool toy/gadget, actualy phones, calanders, address books, e-mail on the go and every other actual use?  I'd say most (walk into any business place).



 

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TacoBoy49 on 13 March 2009

Spot on! Most of the PS3 games people wanted were actually third party games. Final Fantasy, Tekken, residentt evil,Grand Theft auto etc. Nintendo on the other hand 100% owns all of their best selling most cherished games. Metroid,Mario, kirby, pokemon, etc. Those games are all the size of Halo each and nintendo owns them all and all their spin offs are equally successful. When Sony's games went muntiplat, Sony had to quickly hype their own stuff and their stuff just wasn't exciting. Uncharted, lbp, resistence, etc. Sony's first party games were never huge system sellers except maybe Grand Turismo. But I question its value today of hving any relevence anymore as the industry becomes more casual.



Spankey on 13 March 2009
twesterm said:

 

How many PS3's sold do you think are used as super computers?  Less 1%?

How many iPhones, Blackberry's, and other smart phones are used for business purposes or something other than just expensive cool toy/gadget, actualy phones, calanders, address books, e-mail on the go and every other actual use?  I'd say most (walk into any business place).

@ bolded:

less than 0.05% I'd say actually.

As for the rest, I'd disagree.

most execs can't even sync their phone with Exchange yet alone use the terminal services feature or the GPS feature or the media player feature or even the camera. I scored an i-mate cheap from our GM a few years back because it was too complicated for him and he went back to his non-smart phone.

In my experience, it's been only the showy-off-straight-out-of-colledge-yet-driving-a-BMWM3-type young execs seem to know whats potting with the smart phones, and even then I doubt they use 100% of the available features outside of showing off at water coolers to impress mates and secretaries.

But now we digress.



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markers on 13 March 2009
twesterm said:
Spankey said:
twesterm said:
Spankey said:
twesterm said:
RVDondaPC said:
Everyone that talks about the price forgets that it was impossible to predict that the whole worlds economy would collapse like it did when the PS3 was launched let alone the years leading up to it as the decisions were being made in it's development stage. Even at it's high price tag it's managed to put up a fight selling more consoles faster than the 360. In hingsight it was the wrong decision but at the time it was very much a good decision. Had the world's economy stayed as it was the PS3 would be doing much better. I doubt it would have beaten the Wii but it would have been a bit closer.

 

When do you think the PS3 launched and when do you think the economy went to hell?  I assure you, the economy had nothing to do with the first 2 1/2 years of the PS3's life, people just didn't want to spend $600 on a toy.

 

...yet some will spend it on a phone.

 

Yeah, and obviously some people spent it on the PS3 (and the iPhone was never $600 retail) but that still doesn't mean most people will spend that much on a toy.

And at least in defense of something like the iPhone, it is more than just a toy and has legitimate uses beyond being a toy.

 

This depends too on what you mean by most people. 100kk consoles sold this gen to a population of around 5 billion isn't too impressive either. it's all relative. Pedantic, i know.

In defence of consoles, and the PS3 in particular, they can also have legitimate uses beyond toys too. PS3's being linked and used as cheap supercomputers for starters.

Anyway, I think I'm getting off topic now.

 

How many PS3's sold do you think are used as super computers?  Less 1%?

How many iPhones, Blackberry's, and other smart phones are used for business purposes or something other than just expensive cool toy/gadget, actualy phones, calanders, address books, e-mail on the go and every other actual use?  I'd say most (walk into any business place).

 

this is a horrible comparison. the iphone is portable while the ps3 is a home console. both have more uses than just being a toy. if anything compare the iphone with the psp or the ps3 with tivo something of that sort.



TacoBoy49 on 13 March 2009

Apple can do it, Sony can't. Apple also sells a crap ton of $3000 laptops. Sony can't. Apple is special that way.



markers on 13 March 2009
TacoBoy49 said:
Apple can do it, Sony can't. Apple also sells a crap ton of $3000 laptops. Sony can't. Apple is special that way.

 

agreed. but apple has that "look at me im young and spontaneous and i don't buy into the 'norm'" thing going for it