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http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090311/pl_mcclatchy/3186392

He criticized pork barrel spending in the form of "earmarks," urging changes in the way that Congress adopts the spending proposals. Then he signed a spending bill that contains nearly 9,000 of them, some that members of his own staff shoved in last year when they were still members of Congress .

 

Business as usual.

 



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Not...over 9000?



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:
Not...over 9000?

 

lol, win!



SciFiBoy said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Not...over 9000?

lol, win!


I second that

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MontanaHatchet said:
Not...over 9000?

 

Man, give us a chance, you always win the thread before it ever start.



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I know 56 are from mitch mcconell. I'm pretty sure there is a 60-40 split democrat/reublican earmarks. Only a total of four people didn't put on any earmarks 2 democrats 2 republicans I think.

Yeah he lied-The only way a president could ensure no earmarks with any bill is a line item veto and that would probably give the pres too much power.

Did republicans put in earmarks so they could vote against the bill, or because they knew that the bill would pass and that their constiuency would want those earmarks? A follow up, do most people even look at who puts in earmarks?



Many of them are from Republicans. The problem is that we don't have a line item veto for things like this. We really could use a line item veto amendment to the Constitution with the line item veto limited to cutting down on things like earmarks. I would definitely support it.

About 5% or less of the money is specifically earmarks. The rest is normal budget items that the government needs to keep working on a day-to-day basis. The problem is that the legislative process is extremely slow, and it can be harder to take these things out rather than put them back in. We could definitely use some constitutional amendments to make this process move smoother on budget items.



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Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and now Obama all wanted line item veto power.

It sounds like a great idea as long as your party is the one in power. Neither the congress nor the states would ever cede this power to the President.



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