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ssj12 on 10 March 2009
heruamon said:
ROFLOL...yeah but how much money are we talking about PSN making, compared to XBL...lol

 

hard to say as they have different revenue streams

similar:

online game sales, movie sales/rentals.

360 only:

ads in menu

Live Subscription

PS3:

Home merchandise

Home Ad revenue

Home spaces for corporations

Qore subscriptions



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C8 on 10 March 2009
perpride said:
badgenome said:
Euphoria14 said:
badgenome said:
perpride said:
PSN is free...why is it so hard to believe it would surpass live members?

It isn't. However, the implication behind Sony's claims is hard to swallow when creations of new PSN accounts are outpacing PS3 sales.

 

Can't you make a PSN account on a PSP? That is like another 45M potential accounts there right?

Yes. Plus there's a lot of dupe accounts thanks to stupid things like the North American Killzone 2 demo debacle and this situation where OutRun Online Arcade is to be released only on the European PSN. Plus forum members are counted, and this undoubtedly includes thousands of people who just went to troll Killzone 2. So I think PSN numbers don't really mean the same thing as Xbox Live numbers at all.

No, they do not...and its interesting to see that you understand this but the idiots at MS don't seem to. This report should not be taken as the number PSN users as compared to Live users... I have 4 PSN accounts! The number of PSN accounts was bound to become larger than Live accounts for two reasons:

1 - PSN is free.

2 - PSN is accessible from the Internet and PSP.

The people at MS understand this just fine - they just said "we don't believe what they are saying represents the spirit of 'number of active online gamers'" - I'm quite sure they see the same list of reasons you or I do (extra accounts becuase they are free, extra accounts to get content for other reasons, accounts for web only - non-xbox live members can access xbox online forums just fine and MS does not count them as "xbox live users")

If MS wanted to be totally dishonest here (like someone else is being) they could use a number like 300+ million active live ids (or maybe it's more - hotmail alone represents 230 million active live ids http://advertising.microsoft.com/uk/msn-hotmail)

 

 



NJ5 on 10 March 2009
Jo21 said:
NJ5 said:
Megadude said:

17 million XBL members they say, but they never mention how many are gold subscribers, so there can be plenty of dupe accounts for XBL. As mentioned before PSN is free and it's not just possible but probable that the online gaming userbase is gaining ground on the Gold subscribers absolutely.

They did say that the majority of Xbox Live members are gold accounts, and then this article popped up:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=209037

56% according to some leaked document.

 

 

56% its hardly a majority.

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/majority

 



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Cueil on 10 March 2009
DirtyP2002 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
its PS3 PSN + PSP PSN numbers

boy he's dumb

 

 + Plastation forum accounts.

 

 You don't even need a PS3 or PSP to have a PSN account



 
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Staude on 10 March 2009
Cueil said:
DirtyP2002 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
its PS3 PSN + PSP PSN numbers

boy he's dumb

 

 + Plastation forum accounts.

 

 You don't even need a PS3 or PSP to have a PSN account

 

yea because people at large usually signs up to various things they've got no reason to sign up for



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NNN2004 on 10 March 2009

why are the bosses always dumbs ?



geddesmond2 on 10 March 2009

my brother has an xbox and has had 3 silver accounts and 1 gold account since he first got the xbox.i have a ps3 and i have 2 accounts.1 american for getting all those demos us europeans dont get and 1 i use as my really account were i play games on.if i could read japanesse i would open an asian account for the content they get also but i cant so i havnt opemned one yet.

bottom line is both numbers are definitly wrong,but did sony say there is currently over 20 million accounts signed up and not over 20 million users?