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Moongoddess256 said:
weird, must be influenced by city teachers or something.

If you think about it our tiny towns can't fund much in terms of education.

 

It really shouldn't have too.

We have the same problem in Ohio.  Which the Ohio Superme court has ruled illegal because it's biased against people with low property values and againt the poor.

The capital has been ordered to come up with a different system.

Of course that happened like... 20 years ago.

Each school district in the state should get funding equal to what percentage of the population they serve.

They way it's set up now poor small towns are screwed because they neither have individual wealth or a large number of houses.

The other issue of the funding going to the right place isn't really solveable by the public school system.

With little competition since kids going to private school still pay there salries via the parents... there is little incentive for the amdinistrative officials to take money from the unions to give it to what the students may need.

Competion would force them to up their games to make the best schools.

But then this may lead to the same problems that smaller towns have now. (as well as cities with poor.)

Getting the teachers to care via merit based raises also have the issue that it needs to be uniform and then teachers end up teaching a test.


All and all education is a really tough problem to figure out.



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1- great

2 - great



1) Pre-college education was enjoyable. I participated in many extracurricular activities: football, wrestling, and parties. My post-secondary education has been both enjoyable and enriching.

2) My country's education is appalling. As I have noted before on this website, I think it is imperative that the US switch to a consumer-subsidized education system.



1) Primary school was pretty good, the teachers cared enough to challenge the brighter students whilst also teaching the rest of the class. High school was good, I went to a public selective school and it was pretty sweet. One of the worst funded schools in the state though.
I'm loving Uni - I'm at a Uni that consistently tops the charts for my hemisphere, and sits in the mid teens for worldwide ranking - it's in a beautiful country and the work is interesting.

2) Very good overall, we don't have Uni's as prestigious as UK, USA and Japan, but we have alot of great uni's, and alot of uni's that are brilliant for a few courses. The HECS (student loans, interest is matched to inflation) scheme is very good, and I think that makes our education system better than the USA's



all i got to say is fck the illuminati/reptilians foundation
education is just one of many ways of controlling us (mankind)



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I hated high school and I hated both technical college and university. I have completed a few qualifications but they led nowhere but stuck on the unemployment line.
I am doing another technical college course and plan on studying engineering at university and maybe find a job.
Maybe I should of done a trade instead or worked as a labourer. Because university/college sucks IMO.
Luckily where I live in my country you can rack up huge student loans and never have to pay them back unless you earn enough through a full time job.



1. I like it.
2. Biased, bad system, low budget, dumb students.




Kasz216 said:
Moongoddess256 said:
weird, must be influenced by city teachers or something.

If you think about it our tiny towns can't fund much in terms of education.

 

It really shouldn't have too.

We have the same problem in Ohio.  Which the Ohio Superme court has ruled illegal because it's biased against people with low property values and againt the poor.

The capital has been ordered to come up with a different system.

Of course that happened like... 20 years ago.

Each school district in the state should get funding equal to what percentage of the population they serve.

They way it's set up now poor small towns are screwed because they neither have individual wealth or a large number of houses.

The other issue of the funding going to the right place isn't really solveable by the public school system.

With little competition since kids going to private school still pay there salries via the parents... there is little incentive for the amdinistrative officials to take money from the unions to give it to what the students may need.

Competion would force them to up their games to make the best schools.

But then this may lead to the same problems that smaller towns have now. (as well as cities with poor.)

Getting the teachers to care via merit based raises also have the issue that it needs to be uniform and then teachers end up teaching a test.


All and all education is a really tough problem to figure out.

^^^^^^^

I live in BC Canada where schools recieve funding on a per student basis with additional funding available to deal with special circumstances such as underperformance, geographic isolation, etc.  All money for capital works is divided up on a case by case basis. The teachers union here is overpowered and is constantly engaged in propaganda campaigns to get the public on their side. They are currently lobbying the government to change the funding formula to add the ability for each school district to impose a municipal tax.  This will ultimatly result in the teachers gaining a nice big pay increase (they had to lessen their previous demands because schools would have to close on fridays to meet them with the current funding model).

The teachers want to screw with a good thing.

 

 

 

Aside from the teachers being paid too much I have two other issues with the public system.

  1. It is virtually impossible to remove a bad teacher from their job (job security is entirely based on how long you have been a union member). This is an issue created by the union.  Whenever layoffs occur the teachers who have been teaching for the shortest amount of time get cut even if it means replacing a shop (carpentry, metalwork, engineering, etc) teacher with an art teacher. Firings require extensive physical abuse or some form of sexual abuse for senior teachers.
  2. Prefferential treatment based on race. I attended a high school with 1237 students during my graduating year.  Of those students 2 where native american and 1235 made up a mixture containing all of the other races.  There are two study rooms at the school.  One contained two full time teachers aides, a fully stocked kitchen, couch, tv, and 3 computers. The other contained three full time teachers aides and 40 desks with plastic chairs.  The first room was restricted for use only by native american students.  The second room was open to every single student in the school (all 1237). 

 

 

Overall the public education system fails to prepare you for the real world and instead teaches you how to write a test.

The college/university system does away with issue 1 from above but suffers in the exact same way from issue two.  At my college each year for the first five years and every 2nd year after that a prof gets evaluated on their performance by all their students and a select group of said students employers as well as their fellow profs (if bio 203 is a pre requisite for bio 204 and the students who took bio 203 with prof x are unprepared in the eyes of prof y for bio 204 prof x will not be teaching next year.  Profs who fail evaluations are not invited back to teach.