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As a fellow fan of the graphic novel, i d like to know your response before taking the plunge myself.The trailers have made a very poor first impression on me



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The_vagabond7 said:

I was going to miss the previews for the first showing, so I decided to wait 45 minutes for the next showing. Still here.

 

 Haha, excellent choice! I hate missing the previews.

Looking forward to your reaction.



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The_vagabond7 said:

I was going to miss the previews for the first showing, so I decided to wait 45 minutes for the next showing. Still here.

 

 Haha, excellent choice! I hate missing the previews.

Looking forward to your reaction.

 

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Just got back and I really liked it.

I was afraid going into it with all the negative reviews and people assuming those reviewers just hadn't read the novel (like I hadn't) and that's why they hated it but it was a really good movie.

Listening from other people that watched and read the novel they left out many things and made some subtle changes but I still felt like I got the whole story and wasn't really left with any questions.

Don't listen to the negative reviews, it's a really good movie. My only guess for the negative reviews (I haven't read them, didn't want spoilers) was that they just aren't use to anti-heroes and that is what this movie is about.

Just a few words of caution-- it's fucking long so don't get a drink and be prepared for violence. Also, there's an abundance of dong.



^But arent the action-sequences a bit stylised? The essence of the book was that stuff should be gritty, and not sliding in and out of slo-mo, like in 300.



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Ahh I want to see this damn film.

From hearing about it, I'm thinking of buying the "Absolute Watchmen" hardback.



twesterm said:
Just got back and I really liked it.

I was afraid going into it with all the negative reviews and people assuming those reviewers just hadn't read the novel (like I hadn't) and that's why they hated it but it was a really good movie.

Listening from other people that watched and read the novel they left out many things and made some subtle changes but I still felt like I got the whole story and wasn't really left with any questions.

Don't listen to the negative reviews, it's a really good movie. My only guess for the negative reviews (I haven't read them, didn't want spoilers) was that they just aren't use to anti-heroes and that is what this movie is about.

Just a few words of caution-- it's fucking long so don't get a drink and be prepared for violence. Also, there's an abundance of dong.

 

 Spot on. I've read the novel and of course details hadto be left out, and fighting scenes were more lengthened, but overall the atmosphere and storyline were pretty spot on. The ending was change of course because they had to cut a lot of what made the ending in the novel. It would've been too hectic and confusing to try and translate same ending, especially when the end result is the same.

 

Spoiler alert: The comedian did not kill JFK in the novel. That was ridiculous and unneeded. That was the only over the top thing they added from transition from print to screen.



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Over all, my verdict is: It's good. Not mind blowing, but it's good. It adheres to the novel very closely with some understandable changes, and a couple of odd by not terrible additions (the JFK thing for instance, not a big deal, but odd).

The script is often ripped straight from the graphic novel, many of the better speeches and moments are word for word (such as the opening from Rorschach, and Osterman's monologue on Mars). I felt slightly underwhelmed but I think it's largely because it's such a close analogue of the comic book I felt overly familiar with it. And after the novelty of seeing them reproduce certain frames from the graphic novel almost exactly in film, then it felt kind of like "ok, now I know exaclty what happens for the next two hours". But that's not really a slight against the film in any way.

They pulled no punches in content. For it's time Watchmen was a very violent graphic novel and they translated that in full. Watching a guy get his arms cut off, not in any way insinuated off screen, but just fully on screen a man gets his arms sawed off by a buzz saw with tons of splashing blood and screaming, it felt a bit like "hostel" at times (a movie I am not in the least fond of). But given the source material and that it's largely just reproducing what was in it, it straddles a very thin line of gratuitous and necessary to the film.

The fights while somewhat stylized, didn't feel over the top matrixy for the most part. Watching Rorschach beat the hell out of FBI agents in a panic still felt very much like he was just a raging maniac that was good at thinking fast, I never felt that it was too over the top stylized to compromise what was in the comic book.

The change of the ending didn't feel at all awkward or forced, and in hindsight seems like a really good idea. Trying to fit the whole island of dr mareau artists/scientists thing would be awkward and bizarre in the context of the film, what they did instead made sense and worked out really well without compromising the actual philosophical content of the ending.

I think for the most part the philosophical themes came through adequately in the movie, though they focused on some aspects over others. It didn't focus over much on the contrast between Rorschach's more deontological views over Ozymandias' more utilitarian views, and the nature of using ideology as a justification for power and authority, but it hit on other notes well. The nihilism vs existentialism came through fine since they just took most of Manhattan's dialogue straight from the comic book. And the ideas of human nature, justice and authority still came through alright. It felt more empty than the novel, but that's just a given seeing as how it has alot less time and space to explore the same material.

Overall as a fan of the novel, I would say it performed adequately. It didn't blow me away like the graphic novel did, but it did a good job of reproducing it. And yes, there is a significant amount of dong in the movie. They didn't stick with the Michelangelo kind of understated penis as with the graphic novel. Manhattan's got the goods, and he's not afraid to show it.

Over all, I really enjoyed it.



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well according to these "critics{" watchmen is better than 300, even though they rated that low.
I'll go see it Sunday, hope it will not disappoint.
note: haven't read he graphic novel.



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Saw it yesterday, good movie.

Read the comic before also, the movie ending made more sense also the film was way more violent than the comic.

The film visually is very gorgeous and the actors all pull off there jobs well with a decent soundtrack. Though I really had to take a piss because I thought a large drink and a can of pepsi was smart, I sat all the way through despite its length.

Sum up, a very well adaption to cinema. Would be willing to pay to see it again in cinema. Just get use to seeing dong or letting Rorschach distract you because his mask is so awesome.