lol yeah im on 25 min now, some serious bum sucking going on here. lol

decent speech thus far though. One of his most charismatic yet. and that saying something!

He's made 110% effort on that speech. shame he spent most of it brown nosing the americans. Basically the bottom line was 'don't just look out for yourselves america, look out for the rest of the world too'. Could have been said without complimenting them though.

I can't understand people's mentalities when they blame GB for the recession. I don't think he was in control of France's economy, or the US's, or China's, or anyone else's apart from ours, for that matter.

I personally prefer Gordon Brown to Tony Blair, but that's for another day (or not, depends on how this thread goes )

SamuelRSmith said: I can't understand people's mentalities when they blame GB for the recession. I don't think he was in control of France's economy, or the US's, or China's, or anyone else's apart from ours, for that matter. I personally prefer Gordon Brown to Tony Blair, but that's for another day (or not, depends on how this thread goes )

Yeah.  Though the UK is in a worse position then the UK and China.

The UK has a very real shot at going bankrupt like Iceland has.

Which you may actually perfer considering your polcies since it would almost definitly force England closer into the EU fold.

I'd think the EU would step in and do a currency transfer fairly fast so as to not adversley effect the poor too much.

Kasz216 said: SamuelRSmith said: I can't understand people's mentalities when they blame GB for the recession. I don't think he was in control of France's economy, or the US's, or China's, or anyone else's apart from ours, for that matter. I personally prefer Gordon Brown to Tony Blair, but that's for another day (or not, depends on how this thread goes ) Yeah.  Though the UK is in a worse position then the UK and China. The UK has a very real shot at going bankrupt like Iceland has. Which you may actually perfer considering your polcies since it would almost definitly force England closer into the EU fold. I'd think the EU would step in and do a currency transfer fairly fast so as to not adversley effect the poor too much.

any proof that were about to go bankrupt? seriously ive seen none? when you have Evidence of this, then post

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one of Browns better speaches, im glad he's warning the US off protectionism (which i understand much better now ive done some research into it online) i just wish he'd do more to get the banks lending and stuff here

Kasz216 said: SamuelRSmith said: I can't understand people's mentalities when they blame GB for the recession. I don't think he was in control of France's economy, or the US's, or China's, or anyone else's apart from ours, for that matter. I personally prefer Gordon Brown to Tony Blair, but that's for another day (or not, depends on how this thread goes ) Yeah.  Though the UK is in a worse position then the UK and China. The UK has a very real shot at going bankrupt like Iceland has. Which you may actually perfer considering your polcies since it would almost definitly force England closer into the EU fold. I'd think the EU would step in and do a currency transfer fairly fast so as to not adversley effect the poor too much.

 Have you actually got anything on this? I mean, I've heard nothing from no one in the British press, even from the Tory papers, and my economics teacher hasn't mentioned anything of the sort.

But, yes, anything bringing us closer to the EU would be fantastic, though I don't like the idea of the human cost involved (it would be like getting a mint, but it being lodged in a steaming pile of shit).

 Well, he's doing as much as he can, and what he's doing is growing in size. I mean, in the past week we've heard of the £75 billion quantitive-easing, getting Northern Rock to lend £14bn in mortgages, and the Bank of England Bill which gives more control to it).

The London summit will be targeted at getting a world-wide regulatory banking system (which doesn't help much now, but it will in the future), as well as dealing with other things.

I personally think that Brown's Darling (see what I did there ) are being a little steady on what they're doing. I don't think that they're going to nationalise the entire banking system simply because we're getting ever-closer to an election, Labour is in shit, and they don't want to lose even more votes (they would certainly lose a lot of the centrists). I'm also of a belief that this has something to do with the part-privatisation of the Royal Mail - it pleases more voters than it pisses off.

SciFiBoy said: Kasz216 said: SamuelRSmith said: I can't understand people's mentalities when they blame GB for the recession. I don't think he was in control of France's economy, or the US's, or China's, or anyone else's apart from ours, for that matter. I personally prefer Gordon Brown to Tony Blair, but that's for another day (or not, depends on how this thread goes ) Yeah.  Though the UK is in a worse position then the UK and China. The UK has a very real shot at going bankrupt like Iceland has. Which you may actually perfer considering your polcies since it would almost definitly force England closer into the EU fold. I'd think the EU would step in and do a currency transfer fairly fast so as to not adversley effect the poor too much. any proof that were about to go bankrupt? seriously ive seen none? when you have Evidence of this, then post

Your country has by far the highest budget deficit in the world when it comes to a major country...

And being a major country and being a finanical hub of lending... you actually have debts that may need to be paid should people start pulling out pretty fast.

Also your banks are a fairly large part of your economy and they have a lot of foreign currency liabilties.

To put it another way.... Iceland collapsed with a debt that was 600 percent of it's GDP from it's banks.

The UK's is currently 450 Percent if your banking system fails.

:-p id still rather they did more, but id take them over the Tories anyday of the year