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Tyrannical on 27 February 2009
akuma587 said:

Wow, me and Tyrannical actually agree on something!

Though technically the federal government can pre-empt a state law if it chooses.  And this would fit within the government's commerce clause power since it is highly unlikely that 100% of the marijuana would be grown within the state.

Little thing called the supremacy clause:

Article VI:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

 

Little thing called then Tenth Amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

 

 



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akuma587 on 28 February 2009
Tyrannical said:
akuma587 said:

Wow, me and Tyrannical actually agree on something!

Though technically the federal government can pre-empt a state law if it chooses.  And this would fit within the government's commerce clause power since it is highly unlikely that 100% of the marijuana would be grown within the state.

Little thing called the supremacy clause:

Article VI:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

 

Little thing called then Tenth Amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

 

 

That's only if it falls outside of Congress' power though.  Outlawing drugs fits well within their commerce power.

 



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Commando on 28 February 2009

Thats cool. Wouldn't suprise me.

Ha the reporters name is Kelly Bush.



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Commando on 28 February 2009

just from reading back a bit I thought I would add.

It seems to me that a large (NOT ALL) amount of the paranoid problem comes from its inherent illegality.

Only Paranoia I ever exp. was getting busted.



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Moongoddess256 on 28 February 2009

I don't worry about its illegality so much because I live in a state where its decriminalized. You get it taken away and a slap on the wrist. I worry when I cross the border into NH where its still criminal.



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Kasz216 on 28 February 2009

The states can leaglize it. The government will still say it's illegal though.

The states SHOULD have the right to regulate it how they see fit... but this wouldn't be the first time the government took liberties.


Either way.  Hope they do.  I think it's stupid to do... espiecially considering the brain blood flow issue, but everyone should be free to do what they want with their body.



BeTa77 on 28 February 2009
Kasz216 said:

The states can leaglize it. The government will still say it's illegal though.

The states SHOULD have the right to regulate it how they see fit... but this wouldn't be the first time the government took liberties.


Either way.  Hope they do.  I think it's stupid to do... espiecially considering the brain blood flow issue, but everyone should be free to do what they want with their body.


Marijuana stupid too do? although There has NEVER been a single death from it! and how many deaths are there from tobacco & alcohol? do some research please.

The Ghost of RubangB on 28 February 2009

Why argue with Kasz? He thinks it should be legal and he thinks it should be California's right to legalize it. Who cares if he thinks it's stupid? I'm sure there's something that you think is stupid, even though you think it should stay legal. I feel that way about eating McDonald's.



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FaRmLaNd on 28 February 2009

I fully support the legalisation of marijuana.



damkira on 28 February 2009
Moongoddess256 said:
He's a troll. He seems to be mocking both the overenthusiastic right(I'm very convinced hes not for real, more like Colbert or something) and the overenthusiastic left (come on, he just says the things he thinks you guys will jump all over the most).

 

He'a probably just very bitter to be living in a state which was formerly one of the most conservative, Republican states in the country to a blue state with a Democratic governor, two Democratic senators etc. etc. in just a few years.