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Riachu said:
FFXII being on this list isn't all that suprising since it pretty much diviates from the formula of previous games in the series. FFVII basically brought JRPGs to the mainstream.

what did ff12 do that was new?  it brought mmo gaming to ff's.  big whoop.  it also was less fun and less exciting than the rest of the series.

ff12 is potentially the most solid game i have ever played, there are very few faults with the game that arent purely subjective.  but it does like nothing new and nothing is really above solid.

 



my pillars of gaming: kh, naughty dog, insomniac, ssb, gow, ff

i officially boycott boycotts.  crap.

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Cactus said:
Where is DOOM?

 

yah I rather see it than stupid mario kart



Well Mario Kart did make it's own genre... i guess.

Their arguement for picking it somewhat... makes sense. 

Crash Bandicoot though?



Since its the list of "influential games", the exclusion of Pong, Donkey Kong, Doom, Pac man, Zelda 1, Super street fighter 2 etc makes me think this list was made by someone who doesnt get the word "influential"



"The accumulated filth of all their sex and murders will foam up about their waist and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"...

 ....and I'll look down and whisper  "no."  

                                                                   - Rorschach

Sounds like a mixture of fanboys made this list. What a mess... :S



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This list is full of fail!



yeah. I'm wondering what the context is of "Influential".



"Let justice be done though the heavens fall." - Jim Garrison

"Ask not your horse, if ye should ride into battle" - myself

Ohh I get it. Initial impact and legacy.

well my top ten would be more/less

1. Super Mario Bros.

2. Tetris

3. Space Invaders

4. Pac-man

5. Street Fighter II

6. Final Fantasy IV

7. Goldeneye 007

8. Mortal Kombat

9. DOOM

10. Guitar Hero

Honorable Mention: World of Warcraft



"Let justice be done though the heavens fall." - Jim Garrison

"Ask not your horse, if ye should ride into battle" - myself

1.

Super Mario Kart (1992) is very very influential. Not only did it inspire all kart racers, but it was the most successful spinoff game of all time. Sure Mario had appeared in a few non-platformers before this, but they were always kinda random cameos (Pinball, Punch-Out!!, NES Open Tournament Golf, and kinda even Dr. Mario). Super Mario Kart was the first spinoff game to feature an all-star cast, and use power-ups from the Mario universe like stars and whatnot, like the game was a damn variety show. If you look at it that way, it inspired every spinoff game ever. It may not have been inspiring great games, but it inspired TONS OF THEM.

Here's a list at Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_game#Kart_racing_games

It includes all-star cast styled kart racing games from franchises like Sonic, Diddy Kong/Banjo, Mega Man, Looney Tunes, Star Wars, Mega Man, Crash Bandicoot, Bomberman, and everything else ever. And yeah they almost all suck, but that's because we can't help but compare them to Super Mario Kart, which is the whole point. It's the most influential and still the best.


2.

But after reading the article... this entire list is bullshit. They actually mention SEPARATE CRITERIA for each game. They list Super Mario Kart not for the actual influence I mentioned above, but because "it was the best selling racing game on the SNES, GameCube, and DS." That same logic could put Gran Turismo at the top for being the best selling racer on every PlayStation platform. Tetris is #2 because "it's available on at least 50 platforms." GTA3 is somehow more influential than Super Mario Bros. or Donkey Kong because "it's the most controversial series of games."

They're picking "best selling racer," "most available puzzle game," and "most controversial series," and yet calling the whole list the "most influential games." That's uh, DUMBWRONGBAD.



soccerdrew17 said:
Riachu said:
FFXII being on this list isn't all that suprising since it pretty much diviates from the formula of previous games in the series. FFVII basically brought JRPGs to the mainstream.

what did ff12 do that was new?  it brought mmo gaming to ff's.  big whoop.  it also was less fun and less exciting than the rest of the series.

ff12 is potentially the most solid game i have ever played, there are very few faults with the game that arent purely subjective.  but it does like nothing new and nothing is really above solid.

 

FFXII basically deviated from previous games in the series as well as JRPGs in general by its battle system and the fact that you aren't force to follow the main story and are allow to explore pretty much anywhere in the game a couple of hours in the game.