axumblade: According to the BBC guy on the GA, Jak and Daxter is already in development for PSP.
axumblade: According to the BBC guy on the GA, Jak and Daxter is already in development for PSP.
It's not cancelled, he made that comment a month or so ago - and had to delete the whole post, as another dev in the same thread told him to shut it.
Nothing to do with Ready at Dawn, though.
axumblade said:
So ready at dawn project and jak & daxter. That sounds good to me. I'm still curious about the Sly Cooper rumors. It might go to the PS3 but the rumor that sly 4 is coming out might be something ready at dawn is working on though.. |
High Impact have unannounced PSP game in development...
^my god¡¡¡ how many more???? sony dont forget of the ps3¡¡¡¡¡.
axumblade said:
Could be anything...Sly might work for it. GoW could be Ready At Dawn. Could work out nicely
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Sly wasn't even that big of a seller on PS2, I don't think PSP would be a good fit.
axumblade said:
Neither was the original Killzone... I don't think Sly would be a AAA title but it would still be a great release for someone who likes Platformers.
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That's part of Sony's plans to make Killzone a franchise. Sly isn't being made anymore and has already fulfilled its full potential. I don't think Sly is a big enough name for PSP, especially with its long hiatus. I think the same with Heavenly Sword (unless #2 is being made on PS3).
Louie said:
It does, definitely. No matter what some people say Nintendo and Sony are at least competing for 3rd Party support. And Nintendo had to face the effect of decreasing 3rd Party support in 2008 on both Wii and DS, at least in Japan. Nintendo want to appeal to a different market but if developers feel like Sony is the better way to go they'll develop for Sony platforms obviously. Nintendo hasn't announced a big DS line-up so far as they are focusing on the Wii currently. |
With DS worldwide software numbers 3-4 times bigger than PSP last year I can't see any reason for concern. I guess you informed better than me, that even in Japan DS software far ahead of PSP software numbers. Highly unlikely that even a bunch of blockbusters could change anything drastically.
The best we can hope, that we'll get some good games this or next year on PSP.
mai said:
With DS worldwide software numbers 3-4 times bigger than PSP last year I can't see any reason for concern. I guess you informed better than me, that even in Japan DS software far ahead of PSP software numbers. Highly unlikely that even a bunch of blockbusters could change anything drastically. The best we can hope, that we'll get some good games this or next year on PSP.
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While the DS sells more software most of the software sales are Nintendo games (at least in Japan). For instance: In 2009 3.4 million Nintendo DS games have been sold so far in Japan and 1.9 million Wii games. According to our numbers Nintendo has sold 2.75 million games in 2009. Let's do the math:
3.4m + 1.9m = 5.3 million games sold on Nintendo system in 2009 so far (Japan only).
Now 5.3m - 2.75m (1st Party games) = 2.55m units.
That means 2.55m 3rd Party games have been sold on Nintendo systems in 2009.
Now let's do the same for the Sony systems:
1.35m PSP games in 2009 and 1.0m PS3 games in 2009 (again, Japan only).
That's 2.35m games on Sony systems in 2009. Sony so far accounted for 0.45m games in 2009, so we have 1.90m 3rd Party games on Sony systems this year.
So even though the DS has seen better third Party sales this year the difference isn't that big and the DS has a) a big install base and b) a huge amount of big third party games like Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, etc.
While the DS has always seen good 3rd Party sales, even in Japan, they never found the success they had on Sony platforms and the PSP has shown in 2008 that it can sell 3rd Party games, a lot easier than the Wii at least. As a result Nintendo has seen decreasing 3rd Party support on the DS last year. That was bad for them as they had to focus on the Wii instead of the DS. The DS would've needed the 3rd Party games to see higher sales last year.
So even though Nintendo doesn't heavily rely on 3rd Party games they still need a decent amount of them on their systems.
If Sony really starts pushing the PSP this year with a PSP 4000, new colors and games the system will see higher sales in the west and 3rd Parties might go for it.
Nintendo has to respond in this case. Of course they're after a different market to some extend but if they really follow the blue ocean strategy in a way people expect them to that would be the same as giving up because they need their developers for the Wii currently and don't have a lot of big DS games left. This is why they pushed GTA: Chinatown Wars and Guitar Hero on Tour so heavily.
Even though Nintendo doesn't really "need" a lot of third party support on their consoles it is always good to have it. You also have to take the next generation into account: A PSP 2 with huge 3rd Party support from the begining would be a much bigger competition for Nintendo.
@Louie
First, let's make sample size bigger to be more accurate. 2008 calendar year for instance, 3rd party software sales (i.e. not developed or published by Nintendo or Sony) according to VGChartz:
DS: 56,2M - 71.3% of total sales (America); 14,8M - 55,5% of total sales (Japan).
PSP: 12,6M - 72,2% of total sales (America); 8,2M - 91,8% of total sales (Japan).
In other words your speculation "While the DS sells more software most of the software sales are Nintendo games" absolutely not true for America and the same goes for any other market except for Japan. You made an assumption that former speculation is true "at least in Japan". Well, I'm not going to argue that. It it is true, that notably bigger part of DS software sales in Japan are Nintendo developed\published games if compared to rest of the world. This could mean one thing for sure - Nintendo is the biggest software publisher in the world (in Japan Nintendo position even more dominant, which could explain why 44,5% of DS software sales in Japan last year are Nintendo games), Nintendo games have high appeal to japanese public (at least some of them), obviously all Nintendo games are published on Nintendo systems - as a result a quite high percentage of 1st\2nd party game sales on Nintendo systems even on those, which are fully supported by 3rd parties, like DS. At the same time as you may see 1st party efforts on PSP are pretty much insignificant in Japan (~8,2%), this could mean two things or both: a) PSP didn't see any strong 1st party games for a while; b) there're no or very little 1st party games that appeal to japanese gamers.
My point here is... if 3rd parties have the biggest part of software sales on the system compared to rivals, this's doesn't direclty means that system is healthy. Absolute number are relevant. But again I'm not going to argue that DS software sales are down while PSP are up last year in Japan. Here's potentially could be a problem for Nintendo, but did Sony have something to threaten Nintendo in Japan? Because Sony definitely not able to threaten Nintendo anywhere outside Japan, no chance. Finally, back to the topic... most part of already announced and, I assume, games that still going to be announced this year on PSP have no or little appeal to japanese gamers (current line-up purely westernized), and those that do have one are unlikely will change anything even in Japan (do you remember, this year is the year of DQ9 in Japan? and I can't see that Japan will get FFXIII Agito this year).
If Sony is going to threaten Nintendo, they need to do this somewhere, where PSP position is stronger, i.e. in Japan (2nd selling system after all, well... there're two of them which are selling decently anyway ^_^ ). I dunno if they going to do this or not, or how successful they will be, but THIS line-up won't help.