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TWRoO said:
KylieDog said:
What makes you think core gamers use the Nintendo channel more than others?


I ignore nearly all of that stuff personally.

More likely to have a Wii connected to the internet is the main factor. And more willing to download stuff too.

 

On the other hand, also more likely to delete the Nintendo Channel due to limited memory.



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Based on those figures it's probably 80k or less across all of PAL, but that's still a pretty fuzzy figure.



DKII said:
Based on those figures it's probably 80k or less across all of PAL, but that's still a pretty fuzzy figure.

Really... That low?

Are you only using the UK figures for that? because it seems more popular in the major continental countries (France and Germany)

 



Really bad, but still falult of nintendo, they made an incredible campaign for Wiifit and Wiimusic, but this game just appeared as a surprise, having many chances to be better promoted, but Nintendo just released ¿for Why? I still don´t know why they make this bad release campaign, the worst of this gen for the big N, and they must asume they were guilty from this DISASTER.



Well it's not gonna sell if no=one knows the game exists. Though I recall having seen a single commercial for it on tv. But that was a vague one. Someone unfamiliar with the game wouldn't have known what the heck it was about, really.



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TWRoO said:
DKII said:
Based on those figures it's probably 80k or less across all of PAL, but that's still a pretty fuzzy figure.

Really... That low?

Are you only using the UK figures for that? because it seems more popular in the major continental countries (France and Germany)

 

 

I added up your UK, France, and Germany figures, multiplied by 1.5 since those three are (very) roughly 2/3 of PAL, scaled it up to the entire userbase (that 7.5% figure someone was throwing around) and then cut it in half 'cause most retail titles have far higher submittal rates, particularly the more niche titles.  Without doing a full check I'd say it could easily be as low as 30k.



This is all wild guesses guys... :S



 

DKII said:
TWRoO said:
DKII said:
Based on those figures it's probably 80k or less across all of PAL, but that's still a pretty fuzzy figure.

Really... That low?

Are you only using the UK figures for that? because it seems more popular in the major continental countries (France and Germany)

 

 

I added up your UK, France, and Germany figures, multiplied by 1.5 since those three are (very) roughly 2/3 of PAL, scaled it up to the entire userbase (that 7.5% figure someone was throwing around) and then cut it in half 'cause most retail titles have far higher submittal rates, particularly the more niche titles.  Without doing a full check I'd say it could easily be as low as 30k.

LOL, more like 115k. I trust TWRoO's maths much better than your (lack of) maths.



My lack of maths? I'm the one actually making use of this data and have run extensive comparisons of it to full sales data for a number of retail titles in both PAL and the US.



Chrizum said:
DKII said:
TWRoO said:
DKII said:
Based on those figures it's probably 80k or less across all of PAL, but that's still a pretty fuzzy figure.

Really... That low?

Are you only using the UK figures for that? because it seems more popular in the major continental countries (France and Germany)

 

 

I added up your UK, France, and Germany figures, multiplied by 1.5 since those three are (very) roughly 2/3 of PAL, scaled it up to the entire userbase (that 7.5% figure someone was throwing around) and then cut it in half 'cause most retail titles have far higher submittal rates, particularly the more niche titles.  Without doing a full check I'd say it could easily be as low as 30k.

LOL, more like 115k. I trust TWRoO's maths much better than your (lack of) maths.

My maths was sound... but my final figures are pure guesses of just roughly multiplying the total by 1/2 or 2/3rds depending on various streams of logic that run through my head telling me the German non-channel users are for some reason more likley to pick it up than the UK non-channel users.

DKII is the one who crunches the figures I send him into proper sales figures rather than just representations of what the nintendo channel users own.

Although I still find it hard to believe it could be as low as 30k (I know that was the lowest end) I mean it still gets shelf space in the UK, albeit usually 1-2 copies and in the "bookshelf" spaces rather than the chart shelves (ie only spine showing rather than face out)
And that's in the UK, where this game is aparently less popular than in France/Germany/Spain (and probably the rest of Europe) but then, for all I know those copies are just unsold stock (but again, I wouldn't think supermarkets would keep unsold stock out for long)
In truth we have no way of knowing for certain what the non-channel users buying habits are like compared to the actual data.... but your best bet by far is DKII (probably followed by me, but only for Europe, and still not particularly useful unless DKII is offline)

So even though it seems odd, DKII knows more about it than me.


By the way DKII.... What is your estimate for Excite Truck.... because looking at it I guessed it was somewhere between 400-500k for PAL, which added to VGC data for Japan and America puts it close to 1 million worldwide.