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Darth Tigris on 16 February 2009
mrstickball said:
This may send a lot of hate my way from PS3 and X360 fans but....

Forza 2 was a system seller. Taking out PAL bundles using the same methodology (subtracting Viva Pinata sales from Forza 2 sales between Oct 19th and Feb 23rd), we find out that Forza 2 sold over 1 million copies in PAL territories - somewhere just below 1.1 million.

Since that's the case, 1.1m PAL sellthrough puts Forza 2 in pretty good territory, especially given how poor the install base was at that time.

Forza 3 this Christmas should rack up between 1.5 million and 2.0 million units sold in PAL territories. That should, for all intents and purposes, move some consoles.

Why would anything you say bring hate?  Especially since you didn't say anything bad about the 360 or PS3?

 



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Shadowblind on 16 February 2009

Sooo....how big was the PS2 sales in EU the month GT4 came out? Charts plz :P



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Tyrannical on 17 February 2009

I just can't see GT:5 moving many consoles. Any real "GT" fans already have a PS3 and GT:prologue.



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eliasg on 17 February 2009
Tyrannical said:
I just can't see GT:5 moving many consoles. Any real "GT" fans already have a PS3 and GT:prologue.

no , many more casuals waiting for GT5 and PS3 price cut to arrive...

 



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Serious_frusting on 17 February 2009

this will be epic if GT5 releases the same week or something. it would be interesting to see how the 2 best racing car simulator games do. I love competiton. The reviews will be head to head, the commercials.

and most importantly teh sales. Forza is the best comp GT has ever had by a long shot. It will be interesting to see how many sales GT will lose to Forza being as Many people who will purchase GT may own a 360.

Its kind of like M$ was of saying 360 owners you dont need to buy a ps3 for GT5 heres Forza 3. Plus people who dont own a ps3 or 360 the same thing.

that being said people who dont own the ps360 will most likely go for a ps3 with GT5. brand name, possibly a cheaper ps3 aswell. Still forza is there to nip at GT's anckles.

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Snaaaaaake on 17 February 2009

Forza in no way compares to GT5.

MS are idiots if they release the game around the same time as GT5.



Lostplanet22 on 17 February 2009

Pff we all know => Mario Kart Wii sales >>>> Forza 3 sales + GT 5 sales.

Sorry couldn't resist.



 

RPG on 17 February 2009
Serious_frusting said:
this will be epic if GT5 releases the same week or something. it would be interesting to see how the 2 best racing car simulator games do. I love competiton. The reviews will be head to head, the commercials.

and most importantly teh sales. Forza is the best comp GT has ever had by a long shot. It will be interesting to see how many sales GT will lose to Forza being as Many people who will purchase GT may own a 360.

Its kind of like M$ was of saying 360 owners you dont need to buy a ps3 for GT5 heres Forza 3. Plus people who dont own a ps3 or 360 the same thing.

that being said people who dont own the ps360 will most likely go for a ps3 with GT5. brand name, possibly a cheaper ps3 aswell. Still forza is there to nip at GT's anckles.

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If Forza 3 released the same week as GT5 MS would be telling Turn 10 to commit suicide, it would simply be one of the top retarded decisions in the gaming industry. Forza has done well but people under the belief that in term of popularity or sales Forza stands up to GT......delusional to say the least.

Notice I did not say quality, Forza games are very good but at least for me and everyone I know the games are nothing compared to GT games. I personally want both games to do very well, so far it has only been GT who keep racing sims popular so would be nice to share the responsibility between the two.

But as I said day and date Forza 3 with GT5, the latter would sell at least 2x more which really does tell the power of the franchise on a userbase 8 million less than the console the former is on.

 

 



 

jpain333 on 17 February 2009
RPG said:
Serious_frusting said:
this will be epic if GT5 releases the same week or something. it would be interesting to see how the 2 best racing car simulator games do. I love competiton. The reviews will be head to head, the commercials.

and most importantly teh sales. Forza is the best comp GT has ever had by a long shot. It will be interesting to see how many sales GT will lose to Forza being as Many people who will purchase GT may own a 360.

Its kind of like M$ was of saying 360 owners you dont need to buy a ps3 for GT5 heres Forza 3. Plus people who dont own a ps3 or 360 the same thing.

that being said people who dont own the ps360 will most likely go for a ps3 with GT5. brand name, possibly a cheaper ps3 aswell. Still forza is there to nip at GT's anckles.

EPICNESS

If Forza 3 released the same week as GT5 MS would be telling Turn 10 to commit suicide, it would simply be one of the top retarded decisions in the gaming industry. Forza has done well but people under the belief that in term of popularity or sales Forza stands up to GT......delusional to say the least.

Notice I did not say quality, Forza games are very good but at least for me and everyone I know the games are nothing compared to GT games. I personally want both games to do very well, so far it has only been GT who keep racing sims popular so would be nice to share the responsibility between the two.

But as I said day and date Forza 3 with GT5, the latter would sell at least 2x more which really does tell the power of the franchise on a userbase 8 million less than the console the former is on.

 

 

speak for yourself I owned every GT on ps1 & ps2...when I owned those consoles, now I have Forza and yes GT has impressive graphics, but everything else Forza is neck and neck. their both brilliant games....its just sad biased/fanboys just stick up for their favorite console...

GT will sell more obviously, its an established game and has been around for several years before Forza hit the scene, and when it did it was on a poor selling console...

 



mrstickball on 17 February 2009

I think people forget that FM3 could heavily impact the hardware-moving capabilities of GT5 if marketed properly. Think about this scenario:

FM3 launches 1 month before GT5 in Europe (Easily will be the best market for GT5, give install bases). Microsoft markets the snot out of FM3 as the 'must-have' sim racer.

Should Sony not counteract with a big price drop, I think that FM3 could steal away a lot of hardware sales - as consumers look at spending almost half for a FM3 + X360 bundle, as they would for a PS3 + GT5 bundle.

Even if GT5 has the bigger mindshare in terms of the 'must-have racer', that price tag will not help consoles moving. If MS is smart, they could seriously damage GT5's hardware-moving capabilities. Not that I expect FM3 to outsell GT5 - that'd be very difficult, but it could be relatively close, and primarily damage Sony's Q4 hardware sales, while boosting their own.



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