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SciFiBoy on 10 February 2009
MrBubbles said:
SciFiBoy said:
MrBubbles said:
free healthcare? no such thing

 

if i need healthcare i can go to a hospital and get it for free!

obviously it costs the government money, but YOU CANNOT PUT A PRICE ON PEOPLES HEALTH!

 

and where does the government get the money for it?  off of its hardworking citizens.

 

of course, you pay taxes and in return your government gives you freedom, elections, healthcare, education, etc

 



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HappySqurriel on 10 February 2009
SciFiBoy said:

are your figures on obesity or dangerous obesity?, theres a differnce, you can be obeise without it being damaging for your health, also one way of tackling this is through education, if we teach people more about the risks from a younger age, thoose rates will probably go down.

First off, obesity is the level at which a person's weight is translating into long term health problems ...

Now, what makes you think "Education" is the problem?

My generation (GenX) received far more comprehensive education in physical fitness and nutrition than my parents generation did, and the generation that followed me received an even better education in physical fitness and nutrition than I did, and yet my generation has a worse obesity problem than my parents generation did, and the generation that follows my generation has an even worse problem.



SciFiBoy on 10 February 2009
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:

are your figures on obesity or dangerous obesity?, theres a differnce, you can be obeise without it being damaging for your health, also one way of tackling this is through education, if we teach people more about the risks from a younger age, thoose rates will probably go down.

First off, obesity is the level at which a person's weight is translating into long term health problems ...

Now, what makes you think "Education" is the problem?

My generation (GenX) received far more comprehensive education in physical fitness and nutrition than my parents generation did, and the generation that followed me received an even better education in physical fitness and nutrition than I did, and yet my generation has a worse obesity problem than my parents generation did, and the generation that follows my generation has an even worse problem.

yes but obesity dosent mean you will definetley get ill (infact theres criticism of the criteria for being obeise), also what do you propose? so it costs more, if people want to eat too much then they will, just like people who want to smoke or take drugs or alcohol, they shouldnt do it, but they do, they still have the right to healthcare though



arsenal009 on 10 February 2009
MrBubbles said:
SciFiBoy said:
MrBubbles said:
free healthcare? no such thing

 

if i need healthcare i can go to a hospital and get it for free!

obviously it costs the government money, but YOU CANNOT PUT A PRICE ON PEOPLES HEALTH!

 

and where does the government get the money for it?  off of its hardworking citizens.

 

So would u rather the government keep the money for themselves?



arsenal009 on 10 February 2009
HappySqurriel said:
arsenal009 said:
HappySqurriel said:
arsenal009 said:

In Canada we have free health care as well :)
However, USA would rather give money to bail out the fat cats of wall street than give free medicare. They obviously need to get their priorities straight.

 

We have healthcare you don't really have access to ... If you need a family doctor it will take years before you can find a decent GP who is willing to take on patients, if you have an emergency you have to hope that the wait time in the emergency room is short enough that you don't die before seeing a doctor, and if you have a serious illness that requires you to see a specialist you better pray you don't face complications in the months it takes to get your apointment.

 

LoL, joke post? If u are sick u can go to the doctor the same day for a walk in check up. If there is an emergency, the hostipal take u right away. I have no clue what kind of crap ur government feeds u, but ur way off dude.

 

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/82-575-x/2006002/t/4064430-eng.htm

 

LoL, those stats have nothing to with with walk in check ups or emergency surgeries.



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HappySqurriel on 10 February 2009
SciFiBoy said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:

are your figures on obesity or dangerous obesity?, theres a differnce, you can be obeise without it being damaging for your health, also one way of tackling this is through education, if we teach people more about the risks from a younger age, thoose rates will probably go down.

First off, obesity is the level at which a person's weight is translating into long term health problems ...

Now, what makes you think "Education" is the problem?

My generation (GenX) received far more comprehensive education in physical fitness and nutrition than my parents generation did, and the generation that followed me received an even better education in physical fitness and nutrition than I did, and yet my generation has a worse obesity problem than my parents generation did, and the generation that follows my generation has an even worse problem.

yes but obesity dosent mean you will definetley get ill (infact theres criticism of the criteria for being obeise), also what do you propose? so it costs more, if people want to eat too much then they will, just like people who want to smoke or take drugs or alcohol, they shouldnt do it, but they do, they still have the right to healthcare though

 

How is bailing out someone who has no intention of preserving their own health any different from bailing out large corporations who have no intention of preserving their balance sheet? All I see is a group of people making reckless decisions with full knowlege of the consequences of their actions ... Some companies (and some people) need to fail as a lesson to those around them not to make the same poor decisions.



HappySqurriel on 10 February 2009
arsenal009 said:

So would u rather the government keep the money for themselves?

 

It may be an odd thought to some people, but I would rather pay less taxes ...



MrBubbles on 10 February 2009
arsenal009 said:
MrBubbles said:
SciFiBoy said:
MrBubbles said:
free healthcare? no such thing

 

if i need healthcare i can go to a hospital and get it for free!

obviously it costs the government money, but YOU CANNOT PUT A PRICE ON PEOPLES HEALTH!

 

and where does the government get the money for it?  off of its hardworking citizens.

 

So would u rather the government keep the money for themselves?

 

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SciFiBoy on 10 February 2009
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:

are your figures on obesity or dangerous obesity?, theres a differnce, you can be obeise without it being damaging for your health, also one way of tackling this is through education, if we teach people more about the risks from a younger age, thoose rates will probably go down.

First off, obesity is the level at which a person's weight is translating into long term health problems ...

Now, what makes you think "Education" is the problem?

My generation (GenX) received far more comprehensive education in physical fitness and nutrition than my parents generation did, and the generation that followed me received an even better education in physical fitness and nutrition than I did, and yet my generation has a worse obesity problem than my parents generation did, and the generation that follows my generation has an even worse problem.

yes but obesity dosent mean you will definetley get ill (infact theres criticism of the criteria for being obeise), also what do you propose? so it costs more, if people want to eat too much then they will, just like people who want to smoke or take drugs or alcohol, they shouldnt do it, but they do, they still have the right to healthcare though

 

How is bailing out someone who has no intention of preserving their own health any different from bailing out large corporations who have no intention of preserving their balance sheet? All I see is a group of people making reckless decisions with full knowlege of the consequences of their actions ... Some companies (and some people) need to fail as a lesson to those around them not to make the same poor decisions.

 

peoples health is more important than money



HappySqurriel on 10 February 2009
SciFiBoy said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:
HappySqurriel said:
SciFiBoy said:

are your figures on obesity or dangerous obesity?, theres a differnce, you can be obeise without it being damaging for your health, also one way of tackling this is through education, if we teach people more about the risks from a younger age, thoose rates will probably go down.

First off, obesity is the level at which a person's weight is translating into long term health problems ...

Now, what makes you think "Education" is the problem?

My generation (GenX) received far more comprehensive education in physical fitness and nutrition than my parents generation did, and the generation that followed me received an even better education in physical fitness and nutrition than I did, and yet my generation has a worse obesity problem than my parents generation did, and the generation that follows my generation has an even worse problem.

yes but obesity dosent mean you will definetley get ill (infact theres criticism of the criteria for being obeise), also what do you propose? so it costs more, if people want to eat too much then they will, just like people who want to smoke or take drugs or alcohol, they shouldnt do it, but they do, they still have the right to healthcare though

 

How is bailing out someone who has no intention of preserving their own health any different from bailing out large corporations who have no intention of preserving their balance sheet? All I see is a group of people making reckless decisions with full knowlege of the consequences of their actions ... Some companies (and some people) need to fail as a lesson to those around them not to make the same poor decisions.

 

peoples health is more important than money

 

If they don't think it is important, why should I?