....eh....I don't think looking at killzone 2 is going to make Gabe Newell feel bad...or stupid...or whatever the aim of that post/blog/whatever that was. The guy is sitting on a mountain of money, is considered one of the premier minds in modern gaming and Valve is both highly respected and freaking rich. And Killzone 2 is supposed to make him suck it? Wii sports resort has equal chance of making him feel bad about not developing for wii.

Ok, I'm going to have fun with this..

I never once said I give a rats ass what Gabe thinks or what his company wants to do.  If he doesn't port to the PS3 or any other platform for that matter, I'm not going to bat an eye.  "It's his choice, so be it."  - that's exactly what I said, you're completely out of context here.

It's garunteed money.  I garuntee that.  If they released Left 4 Dead on 360 and PS3 at the same time, it would have sold at least a million units on the PS3.  What's 1 million x $60?  A lot of damn money.

Bioshock is the worst possible example you could have used.  Explain to me, and please take your time, why any PS3 owner would want to pay $60 for a game that's a year old?  Especially when it's 360 counterpart was something like $40 when the PS3 version released.  If you release any game a year late on any platform, unless it's a huge game in the likes of, say, GTA or Final Fantasy, it's not going to sell well.  Period.  

As far as Orange Box, yeah, Ok...except that's a niche title.  I see what you're saying here, but the game didn't even sell a million on the 360, so using that as a comparison is not a good idea.  Had it sold, say, 2 million on 360 and 500k on PS3, point taken.  Left 4 Dead would have sold more, that should be generally accepted by most here.

This is very true, day and date releases of big games will net you another million or two in sales and that means $30 million in revenue, the only reason some 3rd party games (MGS4, Gears 1 and 2, ME, TOV, FFvXIII, SO4, etc) are still exclusive is because of money hats, no one will convince me other wise.

True.

Although he is a pompous ass,  who is basically under Microsoft's thumb.  I don't even know why people take him seriously in any capacity as it pertains to 360/PS3?  Where he does get shut up, is his complaints about the PS3 fall on deaf ears.  KZ2 is a competitive title that is every bit as good or better than almost any of Valves releases recently.  If the PS3 was the piece of junk hardware as he so eloquently described,  no one (Especially a lowly, trash developer like GG) would be able to develop for it.

Terribly misleading title, and how a game with a supposedly forty million dollar budget in development for half a decade proves anything is really beyond me. With that kind of money and time the game had better be a incredibly solid product. That would be regardless of developer, architecture, and team size. That really doesn't apply to any third party developer really. Not to mention Guerrilla didn't even have to juggle platforms.

To be forcibly blunt it seems to me that the PS3 is indeed built from the ground up to be full of the fail. So what if Gabe called Sony on that. After all it isn't as if Sony is denying it hell according to them they are very proud of that fact. They wanted to make it very difficult on third party developers. Apparently mostly due to the fact that Sony doesn't give a shit about third party developers. Once again they basically said as much. Then you have the entire issue of Sony being too good to help small third party developers. Instead choosing to spend money on their studios. Once again Sony is proud of this. Basically Sony is very proud of fucking over everyone except for Sony of coarse.

Explain it to me if this is part of the Sony strategy, and it is paying the dividends the way they wanted. Well why are you guys upset, or think you have something to prove. I mean if you think Sony is right. Well then you didn't want him making games for you anyway. In fact there are a lot of developers you do not want making games for the PS3. What are you guys changing your mind. Well if that is the case change platforms. It isn't like rocket science.

hehe Newell has seen the future

talk bad about him all you want, you will see your own words thrown in your face

I can probably count on one hand the number of big name developers or industry spokesmen that put themself in the public eye that don't sound like pompous asses. Will Wright sounds intelligent and above the fray, miyamoto sounds innocent and child like, and pretty much everyone else sounds like a jack ass when they talk. This isn't news so much as it is more fanboy in fighting.

Why would anyone want junker, inferior games on a console?  There isn't one Valve game that is better on the consoles.  They are PC built games through and through.

It still doesn't make sense. If they bailed out and saved themselves from further losses. Sony's would lose all its footing in the gaming industry and would be relegated to sega's status. After what happened when they were late to the LCD generation, I don't think it would be in their best interest to abandon gaming.

Also, don't act like Newell = Nostradamus. He still had the benefit of hindsight. R&D was done. Anyone could guess that a  $600 console won't be taking over many living rooms regardless of what it brought to the table.

Not true, I hate Gabe and think he is a complete douche. The does not mean I do not love Valve, Steam, and their games.

Also while I do know HL2:Ep3 is a more important FPS to the genre, Killzone 2 does show that Valve is lazy on the console front, which I like since they are a PC dev first and foremost.