Gnizmo said:
Master System vs NES, Genesis vs SNES, Saturn vs N64/PS1, Dreamcast vs PS2/Xbox/GC. The PS1 and Saturn launched in a similar timeframe. The Genesis I think was 89ish. The early systems are easy to lump in together given it is denoted by the x-bit tags. |
I want to know how he figures the N64 was duking it out with the PS2 and Xbox.
Gnizmo said:
Master System vs NES, Genesis vs SNES, Saturn vs N64/PS1, Dreamcast vs PS2/Xbox/GC. The PS1 and Saturn launched in a similar timeframe. The Genesis I think was 89ish. The early systems are easy to lump in together given it is denoted by the x-bit tags. |
opps missed the existance of the GC.. sadly I owned one too. This shows how important it was to gaming...
still master system was never released in the US/EU and was before the genesis. This is why I consider the Genesis more against the NES versus the SNES.
| ssj12 said: .... Still wasnt it also the same way with the Dreamcast? Stronger processor weaker GPU, thought it was how it was. Also where is the Saturn in this? Stronger than the SNES or weaker, this I forget. |
Dreamcast's CPU wasnt stronger than ps2 either. Its advantages over ps2 were those:
- An incredible developer friendly programming environment. Thanks to the GPU, general architecture and windows ce support, it was very easy to port pc and sega arcade games to the system, which is at total odds with sony's not so developer friendly, exotic and unintuitive development environment (almost the opposite of ps1 vs saturn case).
- GPU had some technical advantages since it was originally for PCs. It was far from being stronger than ps2 but had a more familiar and comparable power and was even superior in certain games.
There could be other points that I dont remember now...
...About saturn, The CPU was "potentially" stronger due to 2 parallelized processors (but the concept was very new and very few firms really used it). The Graphical capabilities were weaker according to most of the firms unless they would really fully utilize the system. Quake 1 was possible on saturn for example (also it was the best port, better than n64 port), but not on ps1, so it had really good potential but it needed a lot of work. Most of the games that were able to compete with ps1 titles were first party titles.
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Khuutra said:
I want to know how he figures the N64 was duking it out with the PS2 and Xbox. |
Simple, the GC was horrid. I owned every Nintendo console made and still own my NES, SNES, and N64. The GC I dint even want to think existed and the Wii im considering buying again.
So imho the N64 lasted the time it was launched till the Wii was launched. The GC didnt exist because of how bad it was. The ColicoVision was better.
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ssj12 said: opps missed the existance of the GC.. sadly I owned one too. This shows how important it was to gaming... still master system was never released in the US/EU and was before the genesis. This is why I consider the Genesis more against the NES versus the SNES. |
Yes it was. I knew people who owned one. It was released in 85-86ish as I recall.
freedquaker said:
Dreamcast's CPU wasnt stronger than ps2 either. Its advantages over ps2 were those: - An incredible developer friendly programming environment. Thanks to the GPU, general architecture and windows ce support, it was very easy to port pc and sega arcade games to the system, which is at total odds with sony's not so developer friendly, exotic and unintuitive development environment (almost the opposite of ps1 vs saturn case). - GPU had some technical advantages since it was originally for PCs. It was far from being stronger than ps2 but had a more familiar and comparable power and was even superior in certain games. There could be other points that I dont remember now... ...About saturn, The CPU was "potentially" stronger due to 2 parallelized processors (but the concept was very new and very few firms really used it). The Graphical capabilities were weaker according for most of the firms unless they would really fully utilize the system. Quake 1 was possible on saturn for example (also it was the best port, better than n64 port), but not on ps1, so it had really good potential but it needed a lot of work. Most of the games that were able to compete with ps1 titles were first party titles.
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Ah I see, so that was another downfall for SEGA. Should have worked on tech a year longer than released the DC than.... maybe given the Saturn's architecture another run through.
Gnizmo said:
Yes it was. I knew people who owned one. It was released in 85-86ish as I recall. |
sure it wasnt imported? I do know many pawn shops imported it to the US around that time.
| ssj12 said:
sure it wasnt imported? I do know many pawn shops imported it to the US around that time. |
Absolutely positive. The games were in English.
Gnizmo said:
Absolutely positive. The games were in English. |
I can reconfirm this via a quick Virtual Console list, if need be.
Khuutra said:
I can reconfirm this via a quick Virtual Console list, if need be. |
I just looked it up. It was. The Master System II wasnt.
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