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People complete business degrees and law degrees, any degree and end up working in supermarkets or Fast food restaurants. Why? Because there are too many graduates than there are graduate positions and they have to end up taking any job just to live because the dole does not pay enough.

By the way graduates who end up i doing crap menial dead end jobs are still considered employed graduates. lol. Finding the graduate job has a lot to do with luck, knowing the right people, bribes and nepotism. Top graduates have even missed out on securing graduate jobs because the scum bag employers did not like them.

University/college education is over rated and a degree value is becoming less and less as we get an over load of college graduates fighting for a few graduate positions. People have sometimes secured jobs by buying university degrees over the internet. lol.



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Yeah, a lot of my mates who left uni last year still haven't got a good graduate job. I'm very unlucky, I am doing a four year stint at uni in television technology. I'm on my fourth year now (I know most are three, well mine isn't). When I started the industry was thriving, but now it is as good as dead, a few people on my course are planning to volunteer to work for free, for exp. But I'm just going to stay in education, best place to be.



Funny thing is. They require you to do this and that in school as qualification yet most of the time, the actual job has nothing to do with anything you went to school for.

Also, because all of you qualified candidates are working as sales people, banks are having trouble finding qualified local people to fill the positions that they have to rely on H1-B to get people to come work for them.

So... yeah...



I did a business degree major in accounting. I only found out after completing the degree that you have to do CPA or CA to be considered an accountant. CA or CPA takes years to do and you have to pay thousands to do units and pay for annual memberships.

My bitterness and resentment is just due to my own experiences from doing a degree which will lead no where due to not knowing what I was getting myself into.

Any other field you complete a degree and you are a qualified professional in that field. Accounting is different because you have to be lucky to get a shit kicker job and be trained up and do CPA or CA to be even consider a professional.

Talk about unfair. I believe if you complete a degree you should be a qualified professional and then do work experience later in the job you get handed to you after you completed your degree.

Different fields of study may be different, I guess/hope. I am looking into doing a different course. I chose an Oil and Gas Diploma course to do over the 12 months that may lead somewhere, I hope.



The standard of university degrees has fallen over the years. Anyone can get into university courses. HECS fees are deferred and half the time they are never paid off. The entrance scores are dropping all the time, funding has been cut, the standard of teaching at public universities has fallen over the years. The value of a degree is becoming less and less because more and more. People can easily complete degrees with minimal or no effort required to pass the course.

Employers expect too much from university graduates and expect them to have two to three years work experience for the entry level shit kicker roles offered to graduates. Employers want slaves who they can pay minimum wages/salaries too who will make the employer even richer.

HR managers now they are scum bags put in place to stop people from getting graduate jobs because the expectations are unrealistic.

There are a lot of university graduates who will become long term unemployed because there is little or no work in their chosen field. The skill shortage was a huge marketing myth. Shortage was graduates who will be qualified drones to work as slaves for peanuts. Peanuts for time sheets.



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numonex said:
 The entrance scores are dropping all the time, funding has been cut,

 

 I can't speak for your area, but in mine I know a lot of universities were telling the high school about new policies requiring higher test scores because of too many applicants and not enough funds and such. At the high school I was working at recently, they pretty much told a couple of the lower level classes that they probably couldn't get into college anymore with their level of grades and test scores.



 

There are a lot of University Grads who don't get "appropriate" jobs because they CHOOSE not to get the most out of their education and they CHOOSE not try.

It's not like you can just show up, pass through your classes and expect people to come to you offering a job.

I'm graduating with honors, I posted my resume and released my transcripts at the career center two years ago. I get offers constantly.

Of course, I decided to go to law school, so I'm sorting through scholarships and planning for 3 more years.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Education as a whole is totally useless. It has not helped me at all and I learned more from watching Will & Grace then I did from my teachers. Still, TIL (this is life).



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Well in Melbourne the entrance requirements are mainly going up due to more and more people wanting to go to university, people would rather study than work due to the uncertainty of the economy.

Also my girlfriends mum is doing her CPA atm and she just turned 40, she's a CFO of a company so you can always go for a fiancial type job and do your CPA while you're working and become a registered accountant etc then.

Personally i want to do medicine however this year only one university in my state offered it and 120 places aren't many when there were 40,000 students wanting to get into uni. So i'm doing a Bachelor of Science and wanting to get into a post graduate degree in med..

HECS is an interesting topic as a lot of people become 'professional students' for years and never pay anything back.. Just continually accumulate debt.



 

See Puffy, in the US university isn't free but the credit is easy. We have community colleges that guarantee acceptance and many state require state universities to accept community college graduates. On top of that you have a bunch of for-profit schools that offer useless degrees to ignorant people who come out of the horrible school system.

They keep lowering the standards and pumping out more graduates but only a handful get anything out of it... because they go because they think a piece of paper will "get them a job" or because their parents pressure them to go.

I find it amazingly amusing and painfully sad to hear anyone say "education is useless". Some people and universities may be useless, but certain knowledge and the ability to apply it is not.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.