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Hmm, there is still time to cancel pre-orders... I will definitely pick Warhawk up because I trust to our beta testers (ssj12, ckmlb). Lair? I want more reviews...



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kber81 said:
Hmm, there is still time to cancel pre-orders... I will definitely pick Warhawk up because I trust in our beta testers (ssj12, ckmlb). Lair? I want more reviews...

 Me? :(



If it was really an intern who wrote it, it seems more like they just gave a review to an inexperienced guy who maybe got a bit overzealous wanting to be a tough reviewer (as opposed to many websites where even crappy games get at least an 8). He should have been given the DW game instead since there's a lot more hype behind the Warhawk game and I think everyone expected DW to get a low review anyway. Of course, he should have worked directly with a veteren reviewer so stuff like this wouldn't happen. I honestly was expecting that more legit negatives were cut off the original scan.
Then again, in regard to the aiming and what not, we see lowballed reviews all the time on Wii games by reviewers who hate the controls while several others praise those same controls.



To cash in my CC rewards points for $300 in Circuit City gift cards to purchase a 360 or not: That is the question.

IllegalPaladin said:

Me? :(


Huh? Seriously, I've somehow overlooked you...



misteromar said:
I cant help but laugh, because lair was meant to be one the PS3's killer games. Iam surprised because factor5 made great games for Nintendo.

Not many of them.

Just how many "system selling" games were there last gen? Not many that I can recall. But I know more than a few EXCELLENT games that didn't sell well on their own, let alone move consoles (Eternal Darkness, Beyond Good and Evil, Psychonauts, Jade Empire, Burnout 3 all spring to mind).

The idea that Sony would introduce 3 completely new IPs (Lair, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword) that would all excel in quality and improve console sales was far fetched in the extreme.



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misterd said:
misteromar said:
I cant help but laugh, because lair was meant to be one the PS3's killer games. Iam surprised because factor5 made great games for Nintendo.

Not many of them.

Just how many "system selling" games were there last gen? Not many that I can recall. But I know more than a few EXCELLENT games that didn't sell well on their own, let alone move consoles (Eternal Darkness, Beyond Good and Evil, Psychonauts, Jade Empire, Burnout 3 all spring to mind).

The idea that Sony would introduce 3 completely new IPs (Lair, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword) that would all excel in quality and improve console sales was far fetched in the extreme.


Well, they may not have made many but generally the games they did make were worth getting. It's a small studio that doesn't have 50 different teams to work on 25 different games and the various platforms. That doesn't make the existing titles any less worthwhile.
I don't think he's trying to say the title really ever was a system seller. But many fanboys have been touting these games with no proven demographic and praising them as huge console selling titles just because they are exclusives. Everytime a game comes and goes (or the release is set back), another one is brought up as being the the release that will completely turn PS3 sales around. And when that game comes out, there's a slight sale bump that quickly drops 1-2 weeks later. Of course, this isn't exclusive to Sony fanboys. I've seen plenty of delusional expectations for Wii games.
Lair will probably have decent first week sales and then drop off fast if the reviews are proven to be true (IGN hasn't reviewed yet but the comment that has been made by the editor is that it's "painful, repetitive and not very fun"). Warhawk will have decent #s but online only will loose many potential customers on an already small user base. Heavenly Sword will probably end up being the PS3s fastest seller until the actual proven franchises come out.



To cash in my CC rewards points for $300 in Circuit City gift cards to purchase a 360 or not: That is the question.

Did anyone else spot new release date for Lair / August 30, 2007/ on Amazon?



kber81 said:
Hmm, there is still time to cancel pre-orders... I will definitely pick Warhawk up because I trust to our beta testers (ssj12, ckmlb, IllegalPaladin). Lair? I want more reviews...

 thanks for putting your trust in us, you wont regret it, just warning you that there is a slight learning curve for the actual warhawks but thats to be expected, theres not many console games where you fly a vehicle with a hover mode and 9 different weapons on it with a fully motion sensitive controller (recommended for flying).



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IllegalPaladin name a recent multiplayer only game that doesn't feature bots. If you do find one I would like to know the review scores. Battlefield bots may be stupid but there are 15 of them. Stupid bots are better than none. At least you get the option. So what lair just couldn't even do like 2 bots?

15 stupid bots is still infinetly better than no bots.



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IllegalPaladin name a recent multiplayer only game that doesn't feature bots. If you do find one I would like to know the review scores. Battlefield bots may be stupid but there are 15 of them. Stupid bots are better than none. At least you get the option. So what lair just couldn't even do like 2 bots?

15 stupid bots is still infinetly better than no bots.

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