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damndl0ser said:
I will have to disagree with you because I think having the WC in the States did help grow the sport here. Soccer will never be as popular here as it is in most other countries. But I think it scares some of you to think we may some day become a power on the Soccer field. And anything that would stand in its way is a good thing to some of you including not having a WC here.

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zexen_lowe said:
damndl0ser said:
pastro243 said:
zexen_lowe said:

Nobody is asaying that the US does bad in football, everyone knows they're very succesful in women's football (they won the gold medal, right?) and in the last two WC they didn't do bad (they had an excellent 2002 WC and were eliminated in a very tight match against the to-be-finalist Germany in quarter-finals, anmd in 2006 they took part in the most difficult group and drew against the to-be-champion Italy in a match they deserved to win). But a team's success has nothing to do with passion (there are countries with bad teams and a lot of passion -I dunno, a lot of Central American and African teams-, and countries with good teams and no passion -Venezuela has improved a lot lately, but the country simply doesn't like football-).

I think that a WC should only be hosted in a country were it would be THE event, and all other activities (like other sports) have to take a backseat against the WC. For example, in the 2006 WC, even if we didn't host the WC, every Argentina match the city was completely paralyzed, every office and school put TVs so everyone could see the matches and nobody worked or studied for the two hours that took the match. The only thing the newspapers were talking was about the WC, and everywhere the only thing people talked was about the WC, as it should be, because the WC is the biggest sport event in the world along with the Olympics, I'm sure that in most participating countries it was the same. Do you think that if another WC would take part in the US, it would be the most important thing happening there, it would be the even that drew the most attention from the newspapers? I think not. That's no "WC atmosphere" for me

 

I agree with Zexen, there should be passion in the country that organizes the WC. Oh, and Canada wont get the WC on those years, they had the U 20 world cup on 2007, and that makes hard that they have another big football tounament in their country so soon. For example, here in Chile, we had last year the U 20 woman WC and the US won, I saw the final when I was in San Francisco and even though they won nobody seemed to care.

And as zexen said, having a good team has nothing to do, and we south americans think the US is bad because even thpugh they go to every world cup its because their rivals, except for mexico, are really bad, and its easy to get to the WC comparing the Euro qualifiers or the south american ones.

The WC has to be the most important thing happening in the country thats the host, here even thought we didnt go to the last 2 WC we saw all  of the matches, they even gave us time at school to watch some matches, and in 1998 when we went, I was 8 and the country was paralized every time the national team played, we just went to school to see the matches and they painted our faces and we sang and played football all day, you could really see the impact. And in 1962 when we where the hosts that made Television be massive for the first time in our country.

 

 

Even though the USA may not have "Soccer" as our # one sport we still probably have more than 15 or 20 times more players than your country (Chile) does simply by mere population.  So it would be much easier for the USA to come up with a decent enough  team to get into the WC.  

Every highschool and most elementary schools have Soccer teams now.  The sport is growing very much here in the states and having a WC here would do nothing but help improve its popularity.  So I think all of you people talking smack about "devotion" to the game are idiots.

Having the WC in the States would do nothing but help the sport grow, and that is what FIFA is all about. 

 

Please tell me that you don't follow much football, because that statement is simply ridiculous. If population was the only thing that mattered, then the best teams would be China and India. Guess what? China only participated in one WC and lost all its matches, India as far as I know never participated in one. Conclusion: Population does not matter.

It's easy, the US has a decent team, but nothing amazing, and certainly not on par with most South American nations (Chile included) and it will take a lot of time to change that. They qualify to every WC simply because there are very few CONCACAF nations that are any good.

Face it, there already was a WC there and it didn't do much, what makes you think a new one will?

I agree with that, the US may be superior onl to Bolivia and Peru, but I doubt any otherteam in the region, maybe Venezuela, but they have gotten better in the last years. Your league is really bad, teams dont even descend if they finish last. And maybe you have more players than us, maybe they are bigger and faster, but technique is the most important thing. Players like Messi are small, and I dont even have to get to the point to name superstars, playes in my NT that are small areway better than yours.

Population may do something but its not that important. Uruguay is very small, still they are way better than the US.

Most kids in south america dream of being in their NT and playing the WC, especially in argentina and brazil, and that is how you make good players, they learn since they are small with passion.

 



damndl0ser said:
I will have to disagree with you because I think having the WC in the States did help grow the sport here. Soccer will never be as popular here as it is in most other countries. But I think it scares some of you to think we may some day become a power on the Soccer field. And anything that would stand in its way is a good thing to some of you including not having a WC here.

 

 Ok, thats a joke, you know how hard is to a country to get better at football? Ask japan, they even created captain tsubasa to make the sport more popular, eah, they have improved but still they are really bad in the international level. First your league is a joke, and your competition in the qualifiers is too. The CONCACAF champions league is nothing compared to the champions league or Copa Libertadores, or Copa Sudamericana.

No, we are not affraid of the US becoming a power on the Football field, that wont help at all as long as you prefer watching the super bowl, or the baseball league instead of football WC. We just want the WC to be in a country where football is passion so the games will be more entertaining, but Im sure the stadiums will be full of people from other countries that travel to watch their teams or just to watch the biggest sport party on earth.( I hope we make it to the WC this time)

 



Personally, I think that Toronto (Canada) would be a great place to have the 2018 World Cup. Biggest reason being is that it's a fairly large city (Greater Toronto Area pop - 5.5-6 million) Considered the most multicultural diversed city in the world, and there is Stadiums that can fit a large capacity of people, plus we've never had a world cup.



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Would rather see it in Russia or UK.



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@Nirvana: Unlike the Olympic games, the international football tournaments (WC, African Cup, EURO, Copa América and so on) are never hosted by a single city, they are hosted by a whole nation. So if Canada would be the host, Canadian executives would decide upfront which cities would be involved.

But I agree with you, I think one of the two WC tournaments (2018 or 2022) could go to Canada.



Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Personally, I think that Toronto (Canada) would be a great place to have the 2018 World Cup. Biggest reason being is that it's a fairly large city (Greater Toronto Area pop - 5.5-6 million) Considered the most multicultural diversed city in the world, and there is Stadiums that can fit a large capacity of people, plus we've never had a world cup.

You know that a world cup is played in many cities, right? At the very least you need 10 different citites with a big stadium each one. At most a city only hosts 5-6 games in one WC

 




I live in Canada and I know that not enough people will attend it...
I would like to see Russia. They are willing to spend tons of money to show the world that they are back.



 

 

okr said:

@Nirvana: Unlike the Olympic games, the international football tournaments (WC, African Cup, EURO, Copa América and so on) are never hosted by a single city, they are hosted by a whole nation. So if Canada would be the host, Canadian executives would decide upfront which cities would be involved.

But I agree with you, I think one of the two WC tournaments (2018 or 2022) could go to Canada.

 

 I doubt Canada will have another big football tounament in the nxt years since they had the U20 world cup, which is really important even if it is U-20.

I would like it to be in my ncountry but that wont be possible at least for many many years, since we had the U-20 woman WC last year and there is a bid for organizing Copa America in 2010.

But maybe Spain Portugal would be nice



I wouldnt mind it in Argentina either, I would just travel if my NT maked it to the WC, and if they dont I would watch the matches in a very comfortable hour.