hah, Spankey, too true...I guess getting supposedly reported makes me hesitant to keep using the phrase.

Good call on waiting to play KZ2 before deciding, heh.

Phase 1: Divide the PS3 fanbase.

Phase 1: complete

Phase 2: Watch some porn

Phase 2: complete

Phase 3: build killer robot

Heh. Usually I don't respond to such ridiculous fanboyism.

But YES, reviewers have said that Killzone 2 does have some techinical hiccups, including blurry textures, low res textures and texture pop-in. Since post MGS4 getting a 10/10, ign has become "objective, honest and truthful" as reviewers in the eyes of PS3 fanboys, it was their review that said it.

On top of that, where does it say Killzone 2 couldn't be done on 360? where is the proof, the statistical evidence that if Killzone 2 is not bigger than 8gb, that it cannot run on the 360?

That's like me saying Gears 2 couldn't run on PS3 and that's why it's not on that platform.

@CGI-Quality. I've played many games where I've not experienced techincal "hiccups". I've also played games where others have claimed were flawless and I had found noticeable faults (uncharted is the example I've runned into the ground). Why is MGS4 better graphics wise than KZ2 for me? Well, I've played through MGS4 and didn't notice a single technical hiccup (read above for what I define as a hiccup) but according to IGN (a website I trust), there exists some in Killzone 2.

Calamity, what was wrong with Uncharted?

I haven't played the game in its entirety pal. We shall see.

Ah yes, screen tearing. I must be blind because I can't remember noticing that in a game, so I can't say that effects my enjoyment of a game.

I branched it out to try and get a response out of you and hear why you disagree.

I NEVER said KZ2 has better graphics than MGS4,I said MGS4 dosent have awesome graphics like people think.

Just cause alot of people think one thing is good does not make it true,example is GTA IV,LOTS of people loved it,yet some people hated it.(When you play a game you like you tend to find the hidden positives in the game,i for example play L4D and i realize how it has some of the best shaders,how ever you or anyone else could say im wrong,and to that person i could never be right and they could never be right in my eyes) (So people who loved the series plays MGS4 and see a awesome graphic game, while most people just see a game with medicore graphics.

Instead of saying "Not really" you could of said im not even going to bother or something along those lines,im not a fanboy,im not blind i see a game for what it is,but "not really" dosent help at all.It all seems like a misunderstanding.

I said Gears = best graphics ever confirmed? because alot of PS fanboys take MGS4 (which in my eyes has medicore graphics)and claim it as the best PS3 graphics game ever,which i find that Uncharted has alot better graphics IMO again.And on top of that they keep saying MGS4 cannot be done on 360 which is just fanboy BS.

i find it quite sad that gameplay was nearly last on your list, i know you didn'y say its prioritised, but its a sub-conscious action.

1. (black bold): I only referenced the topic of discussion so I could say I was at least addressing it in case you actually did report me. I think it's impossible to even begin to discuss which game is better until they are both released.

2. What is "true" when it comes to opinion is in the eye of each beholder. Having played all the games that are considered among the best graphical powerhouses of this generation, I feel like MGS4 is the best so far. It would seem that most publications agree with me, and yet you say "most people just see a game with mediocre graphics."

3. Judging by a certain guy's response above, perhaps I shouldn't have bothered.

4. I still have NO IDEA how Gears applies to this discussion. Gears 1 or 2? You said 2007 but neither game was released in that year. Most publications voted for MGS4 over Gears 2 and yet more people own Gears 2 so you can't just say it was because there are more fans of MGS4.

Of course they jus cant throw it on a DVD and play it on the 360,they need to get the artcht,controls,online and ahole bunch more right and optimize it for 360,It took what 2-3 years for the PS3 version alone? who knows how long it could take.

So looks like we both agree :)