Well i haven't played b3yond b/c the ps3 will see a price cut this year no need to buy 1 at 400 wen it's likely to b 300 soon, really good games haven't come out yet like KZ2, GT5, GOW3, Heavy Rain, MAG, Twisted Metal and many more

Also there could be a new sku with B/C so i don't want to get one that doesn't have it and later on being mad that the new sku has B/C also the ps3s launch was rocky no rumble or trophies

Sorry PS3 guys i had 2 do it there hasn't been any good threads on here lately for me to post in i'll have to ponder one up soon

$400 is too much for the few exclusives I'm interested in. Multiplatforms are generally either roughly equal, or the better on the 360 - particularly because I prefer the 360 controller. In another year or so, the PS3 will have more exclusives and a cheaper price tag. I'll look at picking one up then.

Screw it.

You know what I think is a bad console?

The Playstation 3.

The first reason is simple. Sony, the company behind the machine, decided that the brand was strong enough that they would be able to saddle it with another, lesser brand from an unrelated arm of the company, and consumers would still buy it.

They said, "Remember the PS2!? Well, now we have the playstation 3...except you have to buy this new thing we invented, Blu-Ray, if you want to buy one. It's 199 extra and completely needless. We're only adding it on because we know you wouldn't buy it otherwise, and we think that you will buy our console based on brand alone, regardless of price point."

Well, unfortunately we did buy it. Barely. Just enough to raise the BR brand, while the PS brand sunk, and sunk, and sunk.

In fact, all of the 3rd party franchises that use to be saddled to the Playstation brand, didn't have anymore room to ride, thanks to the monumental Blu-Ray blunder. They went multiplat.

On top of this horrible, terrible, affront to gamers, called Blu-Ray, Sony also had the nerve to release exactly 0 good exclusive games for the first year of the console, which was around 600 USD. The console blew chunks, then, worse than any console ever. It was the worst console on the market, ever. It sucked. The Wii blew it away. Yes, yes it did. Zelda and Galaxy destroyed the PS3 library, and the price was once again, much, much cheaper.

Now, two years after the horrible launch, the console is getting some good exclusives. However, it is still bundled with the useless BR player, and its back catalog of games is still hovering around the "shit" classification. Yet, it stubbornly remains at the 400 dollar plus 50 dollars sales tax pricepoint.

Now, I'm being asked to buy the console, immediately before an obvious pricecut, by Sony fanboys, who don't care about me and my value, but instead just about the extra sale...based solely on the promise that MGS4/LBP, 2 relatively niche games, are great, and the upcoming PS3 exclusives might be great as well.

F that.

The console is past tense to me. Its greatness can never match the PS2, and it would take years to catch the Xbox 360, which itself already has a fantastic library, with multiplats that are better than their PS3 counterparts, at a price point of 199 USDollars, and which doesn't force me to buy, support, or have anything to do with a needless, pointless, and luxurious peripheral that I don't need, want, or understand.

I think playing beyond, before the price cut, is ignorant. I think it has been ignorant since the system launched, and I think it will probably still be ignorant after the price cut as well. The people who have bought the console, imho, have been cheated, and overpaid for an inferior product. They have been made pawns of a marketing scheme, and bought an expensive item based on brand instead of quality and common sense.

Why didn't I play beyond?

Because I thought before.

This thread must be a f'n joke.

Because there are very few games I want that aren't on 360. Actually, the only game I really wanted on PS3 is MGS4. Plus, I don't feel like spending $30 for movies.

@ Zen and u wanted to be in BHR-3s PS3 Army although wat u have said can't be argued with

Don't take it personally my friend. Some people need to be told their place from time to time. Even myself. The first time we met, I told you I didn't like the PS3, but I love the PS2. I don't judge a person, however, based on their likes and dislikes. I hope you will do me the same favor.

Wow Zen, did you get laid off by Toshiba when HD-DVD folded or somesuch?  Early-adopt the 360 HD-DVD player and a load of movies?

I'm just giving you more reason to vent, so you seem to need an outlet. =)

go back to the thread it will tell u wat u need to do to join

i do agree about people need to be told their place from time to time

Great post Zen. 360 owners and Wii owners have spoken, we mainly do not want a $400 console.

I want to argue with you. Real bad. I still have a bit of Sony fanboyism left over from my PS2 days but....gah...I'll come up with an argument for it. You didn't leave me with any space to prove you wrong on those things >_>