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RPG on 25 January 2009
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
RPG said:
DLC, a console RTS and a JRPG against a shooter on another console. I cannot see them competing, most definitely cannot see a JRPG, RTS and DLC impacting sales for a shooter and vice versa.

:/

 

 thats not the point. The point is that 360 is offering 3 major game franchises in palce of Sonys 1. MS is saying:

"PS3 is offering you a shooter, something we have plenty of. However, were offring a sandbox game, a JRPG, and a RTS. Were offering 3 game experiences in place of PS3s one.......a experience that has been done to death (fps)."

Thats what this thread means. MS is saying they offer more then just another shooter. Add Stoked and Race Pro also in February and the 360 exclusive list dwarfs the PS3 list in Q1 09.

 

Wait you are making it sound as though these games will be system sellers. They will sell well, none of them are going to caase people to buy consoles (besides a few people here who are JRPG lovers).



 

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darthdevidem01 on 25 January 2009

TRUST ME

Yakuza 3 releasing a week after SO4 wills sell more systems than killzone 2

why?

as Yakuza is from a strong franchise on PS2....while Killzone isn't + SONY refuse to market anything so thats another reason



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RayRay102 on 25 January 2009
JaggedSac said:
Isn't Resident Evil getting released somewhere around there as well?

 

 Yes, RE5 is coming out 3/13/09. That is a multiplatform release. Speaking of which, Sony really has no exclusive 3rd party game anymore. RE, FF, Tekken, and all the Japanese RPG are going to the 360 even some that are exclusive like Star Ocean.

Relying on one exclusive game for a quarter is not good even with a game that is AAA.



JaggedSac on 25 January 2009

RE might eat away sales more than anything else because it is also available on the PS3.

There seems to be a lot of good content coming out from lots of different sources around the beginning of this year. Isn't the next Street Fighter coming out soon as well. Good stuff for gamers when companies fight for our money.



RPG on 25 January 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
TRUST ME

Yakuza 3 releasing a week after SO4 wills ell more systems than killzone 2

 

I am sure the OP mean NA, if not then yes Yakuza 3 will tear apart SO4 sales and sell more systems then any of those games. That one is a system seller, those other games are not. Had the Halo game been a shooter or a full GTA game the yes but that is not the case.



 

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NJ5 on 25 January 2009
darthdevidem01 said:

TRUST ME

Yakuza 3 releasing a week after SO4 wills sell more systems than killzone 2

why?

as Yakuza is from a strong franchise on PS2....while Killzone isn't + SONY refuse to market anything so thats another reason


I think they'll market this one much more than LBP. How was LBP's marketing btw? Why do you say Sony doesn't market their games, was there any disappointment recently?

(I don't watch much TV so I don't know)

 



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Hammer-of-Dawn on 25 January 2009
RPG said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
RPG said:
DLC, a console RTS and a JRPG against a shooter on another console. I cannot see them competing, most definitely cannot see a JRPG, RTS and DLC impacting sales for a shooter and vice versa.

:/

 

 thats not the point. The point is that 360 is offering 3 major game franchises in palce of Sonys 1. MS is saying:

"PS3 is offering you a shooter, something we have plenty of. However, were offring a sandbox game, a JRPG, and a RTS. Were offering 3 game experiences in place of PS3s one.......a experience that has been done to death (fps)."

Thats what this thread means. MS is saying they offer more then just another shooter. Add Stoked and Race Pro also in February and the 360 exclusive list dwarfs the PS3 list in Q1 09.

 

Wait you are making it sound as though these games will be system sellers. They will sell well, none of them are going to caase people to buy consoles (besides a few people here who are JRPG lovers).

 

 At $200, I can see STar Ocean being a system seller, and not just in Japan. GTA: LAD may be DLC, but its also getting retail shelf space. And it being freakin GTA, one of the highest selling franchises of all time, its bound to sell some Arcade 360s. Halo Wars will sell because its Halo, maybe even snag a few former PC gamers with the $200 price and all.

Thign is, the 360s price makes those 3 games just as likely to be system sellers as KZ2 is for PS3. Why? Cause its harder to justify a purchase when the cheapest price is $400.



Shadowblind on 25 January 2009
NJ5 said:
darthdevidem01 said:

TRUST ME

Yakuza 3 releasing a week after SO4 wills sell more systems than killzone 2

why?

as Yakuza is from a strong franchise on PS2....while Killzone isn't + SONY refuse to market anything so thats another reason


I think they'll market this one much more than LBP. How was LBP's marketing btw? Why do you say Sony doesn't market their games, was there any disappointment recently?

(I don't watch much TV so I don't know)

 

Sony spent 10 million dollars in advertising LBP. I wonder if they'll have that same marketing budget for Killzone?

 



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NJ5 on 25 January 2009

OK here's the list of 360 games released within one week of KZ2:

19th Feb 09 Sonic World Adventure (buy from VG Chartz) Sega
Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope (buy from VG Chartz) Square Enix
20th Feb 09 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand (buy from VG Chartz) THQ
Damnation (buy from VG Chartz) Codemasters
Darksiders: Wrath of War (buy from VG Chartz) THQ
SEGA Mega Drive Ultimate Collection (buy from VG Chartz) Sega
Street Fighter IV (buy from VG Chartz) Capcom
Winter Sports 2009: The Next Challenge RTL
24th Feb 09 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand (buy from VG Chartz) THQ
ShellShock 2: Blood Trails (buy from VG Chartz) Eidos Interactive
Star Ocean: The Last Hope (buy from VG Chartz) Square Enix
The Godfather II (buy from VG Chartz) Electronic Arts
26th Feb 09 Chaos;Head Noah 5pb
Halo Wars (buy from VG Chartz) Microsoft
Samurai Dou 3 Spike
27th Feb 09 Halo Wars (buy from VG Chartz) Microsoft
Silent Hill: Homecoming (buy from VG Chartz) Konami
The Godfather II (buy from VG Chartz) Electronic Arts
This Is Vegas Midway Games
01st Mar 09 WWE Legends of WrestleMania THQ
02nd Mar 09 Brave: A Warrior's Tale SouthPeak Interactive
Damnation (buy from VG Chartz) Codemasters
Hei$t (buy from VG Chartz) Codemasters
Major League Baseball 2K9 2K Sports
03rd Mar 09 Halo Wars (buy from VG Chartz) Microsoft
06th Mar 09 Hei$t (buy from VG Chartz) Codemasters


And now PS3 games:

19th Feb 09 Sonic World Adventure (buy from VG Chartz) Sega
20th Feb 09 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand (buy from VG Chartz) THQ
Damnation (buy from VG Chartz) Codemasters
Darksiders: Wrath of War (buy from VG Chartz) THQ
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice Square Enix
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice (US sales) (buy from VG Chartz) Square Enix
SEGA Mega Drive Ultimate Collection (buy from VG Chartz) Sega
Street Fighter IV (buy from VG Chartz) Capcom
24th Feb 09 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand (buy from VG Chartz) THQ
ShellShock 2: Blood Trails (buy from VG Chartz) Eidos Interactive
The Godfather II (buy from VG Chartz) Electronic Arts
25th Feb 09 Killzone 2 (buy from VG Chartz) Sony Computer Entertainment
26th Feb 09 EndWar (buy from VG Chartz) Ubisoft
Ryu Ga Gotoku 3 Sega
27th Feb 09 Killzone 2 (buy from VG Chartz) Sony Computer Entertainment
Silent Hill: Homecoming (buy from VG Chartz) Konami
The Godfather II (buy from VG Chartz) Electronic Arts
This Is Vegas Midway Games
28th Feb 09 Dynasty Warriors 6 Empires (buy from VG Chartz) KOEI
SOCOM: Confrontation (buy from VG Chartz) Sony Computer Entertainment
01st Mar 09 WWE Legends of WrestleMania THQ
02nd Mar 09 Damnation (buy from VG Chartz) Codemasters
Hei$t (buy from VG Chartz) Codemasters
Major League Baseball 2K9 2K Sports
03rd Mar 09 Brain Challenge Deluxe Ubisoft
MLB 09: The Show Sony Computer Entertainment
06th Mar 09 Hei$t (buy from VG Chartz) Codemasters

 



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RPG on 25 January 2009
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
RPG said:
Hammer-of-Dawn said:
RPG said:
DLC, a console RTS and a JRPG against a shooter on another console. I cannot see them competing, most definitely cannot see a JRPG, RTS and DLC impacting sales for a shooter and vice versa.

:/

 

 thats not the point. The point is that 360 is offering 3 major game franchises in palce of Sonys 1. MS is saying:

"PS3 is offering you a shooter, something we have plenty of. However, were offring a sandbox game, a JRPG, and a RTS. Were offering 3 game experiences in place of PS3s one.......a experience that has been done to death (fps)."

Thats what this thread means. MS is saying they offer more then just another shooter. Add Stoked and Race Pro also in February and the 360 exclusive list dwarfs the PS3 list in Q1 09.

 

Wait you are making it sound as though these games will be system sellers. They will sell well, none of them are going to caase people to buy consoles (besides a few people here who are JRPG lovers).

 

 At $200, I can see STar Ocean being a system seller, and not just in Japan. GTA: LAD may be DLC, but its also getting retail shelf space. And it being freakin GTA, one of the highest selling franchises of all time, its bound to sell some Arcade 360s. Halo Wars will sell because its Halo, maybe even snag a few former PC gamers with the $200 price and all.

Thign is, the 360s price makes those 3 games just as likely to be system sellers as KZ2 is for PS3. Why? Cause its harder to justify a purchase when the cheapest price is $400.

As a game hyped for 4 years, I can see Killzone 2 being a system seller. I can also see Yakuza 3 sales tearing SO4 a new asshole in Japan where it would have done the most damage. Then I can see people wanting RE5, Fear 2 and SF4 more then DLC and finally Halo wars......console RTS.......nuff said.

OMG Halo Wars will convert PC gamers? Boy you are out of your mind :O