You obviously don't know too much about either magazine. They've given very low scores to Sony PS3 exclusives.

 Again you miss the point....I said they were the same magazine i.e made by the same company understand? Sony have an affiliation with the company who publish the magazines hence the "official" tag, that is what i said. I said you would not expect to see 5/10 scores for Killzone 2 from the "official" magazine. Would you not agree with that then?

I have not changed anything i said, your just questioning different areas of what i said to try and make what i've said seem silly. All i have said is we cannot use these 3 magazines which are published by the same company all affiliated with Sony as a true representation of how the overall reviews will go. That is all i've said. Then i got asked why we couldnt use them as a representation and i explained it. I've not changed what i've said at all. You might think what i've stated as wrong but that doesn't make it wrong.

Killzone 2 off to a great start..... METACRITC score of 97!!!!

read it s-l-o-w-l-y. read it again. everyone. it means that the first few reviews of the game have been great and that its a good "start" but it can go anywhere from here.... at least thats what i get from reading the thread.... or maybe its just me because i started the frickin thread...

I hope that you don't use wikipedia as your official source for information in your professional capacity in the media industry.

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OT: i don't see what the big deal is. no one is going to trust the "official" mag who doesn't want to believe in the game and vice versa - anyone who wants to believe even a small portion of the hype will soak it up.

wait till the game comes out and read the user reviews... or rent the game.

just a thought for the game, so far all the beta testers have been reviewing the game positively.

So three official PS3 mags have reviewed it and one MEGamers (which I can't track down). No wonder it's on 97. To be honest I'm surprised the UK mag gave it only 90.

You were the one saying the magazine took bribes without proof to back up those claims.  So until you provide proof they are innocent.  And Like I said even if they did take bribes in the past does not mean they will take them again.  So I will beleive that these reviews are non-biased,  cause it has also been proven to you that they have no affiliation with Sony other than the name in the title of the magazine.  

And for your own sake stop using Wikipedia, information on there has been debunked many times in the past.

The numbers are so ridiculously arbitrary anyway that it doesn't matter. High = good. Low = bad. Last I checked, 90 on a 100-scale was pretty high, so it's a very good review.

I think people put way too much weight (and argument) over review scores, what they mean, and whether they define a title as being "AAA" or not. What the industy needs is an alternative to Metacritic/Gamerankings that simply uses a good/bad formula like Rotten Tomatoes does for movies. Another alternative could be a wiki-like effort such as what is done with tabletop games at boardgamegeek. The current system everyone is falling back on right now, quite frankly, stinks.

what value/worth is there when the difference between reviews is 97 and 95 (i don't mean 2)? what's the value/worth of a game if the difference is 97 and 90 (again, i don't mean 7)? is it really-close-to-perfect vs almost-perfect? it's stupid.

taking a note from dpreview.com, why don't more reviewers scale differently - scoring like "highly recommended", "recommended", etc.

that being said, there is a magazine that doesn't give their reviews a rating at all (is it play?)... which i think is kind of crazy. some people want the executive summary.

Looks like the game has gone gold now so not long to wait on getting our hands on this masterpiece

97 POINTS FOR AN UNRELEASED GAME??? amazing, thats why i never trust metacritic or any other, because this is ridiculous, ¿how can i analize and score an imcompleted game?