GO GT5 but it was expected just look at prologue. a "demo"

So just to get this clear and out in the open, are admitting that a 360 exclusive is going to be good? Blasphemy!

HDD streaming, as a requirement, is pretty much the only reason I can think of to do as many in-game installs as MGS4 did... I can think of, you know, as a professional engineer in the games industry, which you aren't, not by a longshot apparently.  Who is speculating again?

when i had forza 2 at the same time as gt5p.

i tried both with same car and same track with the same viepoint 1st person view. the difference was more staggering than i thought.

the handling was better, the uncompressed audio really sounded like your carving your car around a corner, and i wont mention grafix coz thats not the point here.

gt5 will be a massive game, forza is good and some ppl like forza better especially gamespot.

gt5 handles better, forza seems to float round corners mabey due to the fact that it has poor sound. and doesnt seem real whilst playing.

but one thing i give forza on the handling, is the 3rd person view handles far better than gt 3rd person. i dunno why this is, since gt1 the 3rd person view is rubbish and seems on rails. forza 3rd person feels more natural and more controlable.

I never said I'm a professional in the games industry... Yeah, I was speculating, but at least I didn't pretend I was not. One thing's for sure, if a game like GTA4 can require HDD on the PS3 and not on the 360, that definitely supports the possibility that MGS4 could be done on the 360 without using HDD streaming.

lol because that was 10 years ago ?

I'm sure you thought you just made a point but you didn't. Do you want to clarify what GT2 being ten years old has to do with anything?

That's why they are playing a racing sim instead of driving a real car

hey gt5 better have better physics they have been working on it so long unlike turn 10 where they released a game like 3yrs ago

If you say so...