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Carl2291 said:
Shooters taking over? nahh.
Maybe on xbox... but on wii and ps3 theres a way more wider variety of games played

 

 Lol...did you read the ndp charts he posted? I am an xbox owner and I play lots of games...but the majority on both consoles are buying FPS games now.



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Carl2291 said:
Shooters taking over? nahh.
Maybe on xbox... but on wii and ps3 theres a way more wider variety of games played

I only lumped PS3 and 360 together so that it wouldn't spark a 360 vs PS3 debate when for many months, 100% of charting PS3 games were shooters.

disolitude said:

You should get what I'm saying...3d platformer had its shake at the top...Fighting ruled form 1990-1997...racing was dominant in late 90s early 2000... sandbox was the shit from 2002-2005. Its the FPS's turn to shine. We need a new genre, not something that was popular before...

I can understand from a numbers perspective that more shooters would be made.  My shock is that even when a high profile and high quality non-shooter comes out, nobody even cares.  Well not nobody, but maybe like 5% of the people who own the console will perk up while the rest of them are like, "no guns = fail"



RPGs are more popular than FPS games. I don't see how you can think FPS are more popular.



The world is not America, as everyone seems to so often forget

LBP has managed to sell nearly 2m with no shooting, NFS sells tons every year with no shooting, Prince of Persia should break 1m on each platform, oh and a little game called Assassin's Creed featured no shooting

Just out of interest, in this, are we counting Fable 2 and Mass Effect as shooters? As you do do quite a lot of shooting in them, though they are RPGs



Oh yes, and the 3 most anticipated PS3s games for next year are Final Fantasy XIII, Gran Turismo 5, and for the benefit of this argument, God of War 3 (instead of Uncharted 2) and none of those are shooters!!



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shio said:
RPGs are more popular than FPS games. I don't see how you can think FPS are more popular.

Munkeh111 said:
Oh yes, and the 3 most anticipated PS3s games for next year are Final Fantasy XIII, Gran Turismo 5, and for the benefit of this argument, God of War 3 (instead of Uncharted 2) and none of those are shooters!!

Those games are hold overs from previous gens.  The fact that the 13th final fantasy game will sell well isn't really resounding proof that RPGs are in top form.  The 5th edition of a PS1 era game isn't really resounding proof that that the racing genre is alive and kicking.  You've listed like the #1 selling games in their respective genre.  Of course the #1 will do well.

But what about #2 and lower.  If you don't have the luxury of being the 5th or 13th sequel to a franchise, will anyone care about your game?

First guy:  Umm...?  Outside of Pokemon (not a 360/PS3 title) and World of Warcraft (again, not a PS3/360 title), RPGs are not popular.  If you make the assumption that consumers speak with their wallets, which they do imo, FPS is by far the most popular 360/PS3 genre.  Maybe Final Fantasy will sell alot, but thats like the only one... and its the 13th sequel.  What about a game thats not as entrenched as that?


Fable 2, Mass Effect and Fallout 3, the most successful all had to basically turn the combat into shooting game in order to sell.

Someone else mentioned that the world is more than america... but what good does it do me to talk about all the JPN only and Europe-only games.  Also, look at those sales charts.  If you replace US football with soccer, the EU/Others chart is the same as the US one.



@Mr. sickVisionz

I know that the market has hit the developers hard but I don't think Ubisoft will lose much money on the new Prince of Persia. Sure it won't be a blickbuster...but the devs made the game they wanted to make, and they hopefully get a little money back.

This happens in every industry. There are metal bands that smoke the "commercial" metal bands in jsut about every category...but because their sound isn't the currently popular one, they will never achieve the success of their inferior peers.

I'm looking at your Linkin Park...



Yeah, its really disturbing yet I contribute to the problem lol. I never bought a single FPS last gen. cod4 was the first fps I paid for. Now, I've bought res 2 and preordered kz2. It's also a problem that most of the AAA games we get this gen are shooters so there isn't much of a choice anymore



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disolitude said:
@Mr. sickVisionz

I know that the market has hit the developers hard but I don't think Ubisoft will lose much money on the new Prince of Persia. Sure it won't be a blickbuster...but the devs made the game they wanted to make, and they hopefully get a little money back.

This happens in every industry. There are metal bands that smoke the "commercial" metal bands in jsut about every category...but because their sound isn't the currently popular one, they will never achieve the success of their inferior peers.

I'm looking at your Linkin Park...

Didn't Prince of persia break a mil? why is it's profitability in question? Surely, they weren't expecting gears 2 sales?

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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