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tombi123 on 18 January 2009
Hawkeye said:
tombi123 said:
Hawkeye said:
The problem with this idea is that it assumes several other theories are true... and it has no practical application. I wish scientists would give up this bullshit and work on creating sustainable energy and food, and work more on medical research to prolong human life. Even exploring outer space seems like a waste of time to me.

Why do scientists have to work on what you want them to? Why can't they work on what interests them? If you care so much about sustainable energy, medical research, why don't you work on those.

Physics IS the most important science and it ALWAYS has pratical applications, even if you can't understand how yet. Poeple 100 years ago said Einstein's theory of relativity had no pratical applications. How wrong they were. It changed the world massively.

It is not bullshit just because you're not interested or can't understand it. I FUCKING HATE your argument. It makes me so angry.

 

 

I'm considering it. Being a scientist would be worthwhile and I'm pretty smart so I could probably do it, but alot of scintists piss me off... or at least writers for scientific magazines like Discover and Scientifc American, which I still read so I can stay up to date about mdeical advances ne wtheories like this ect. I'm mostly interested in biology though, so I like reading about animal experimnets that are actaully applicable to human life.

I'd continuing arguing becuase I am in a bad mood, but I don't know how to argue against F*** Hate. Goodbye.

 

 Well I hope you do, the more scientists the better.

Biology is applicable to human life. But what is ALL of Modern Biology based off? Yes thats right! QUANTUM MECHANICS! A theory discovered by PHYSICISTS researching "pointless theories" as you so ignorantly put it.

Bolded: Your use of the word actaully is disturbing. Are you implying that theoretical physics is applicable to human life?



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tombi123 on 18 January 2009
Hawkeye said:
tombi123 said:
Hawkeye said:

I think that the star are all crystal spears fixed in place, orbiting around the earth, which is the center of the universe. It would help explain all of the science of the 16th century.

If the hologram theory helps explain our current crappy science, then its fine by me if scientists believe it. Even if its true, it doesn't change anything. The only way it changes things is if I worry about it.

1. Why does it have to change things?

2. It almost certainly will change things.

 

 

1. If it doesn't. its useless.

2. Doubtful. Most of these obscure theories don't catch on. String theory changed scientist funding a bit but overall it changed nothing... I guess money could go to fund hologram theory. I didn't think of that.

 

 1. Pratically yes. But we would have understood how the universe we live in works. That is amazing.

2. String Theory is a relatively modern theory. Infact it isn't complete. We only have approximations to the equations of string theory. No applications have come up yet, but give it time.



Words Of Wisdom on 18 January 2009
Captain Jean-Luc Picard said:

But... who knows - our reality may be very much like theirs. And all this... might just be an elaborate simulation running inside a little device... sitting on someone's table.

Picard knew it all along!

 



epsilon72 on 18 January 2009

I'd say they're jumping to some really far fetched conclusions...there's a whole lot of 'we don't have any proof of this, but it seems to look like our theories" conjecture here.



Hawkeye on 18 January 2009
epsilon72 said:
I'd say they're jumping to some really far fetched conclusions...there's a whole lot of 'we don't have any proof of this, but it seems to look like our theories" conjecture here.

 

The problem is the are building less than a theory, an idea, on a theory that is itself shaky. In math, you cannot prove something using math that is not proven. That is, you can prove a proof with another proof, but you cannot create a proof using a theory.So these scientists are taking a theory that can't even be created mathematically becuase its full of holes, and then creating an idea about the universe that isn't applicable to modern life. I'll admit that I don't fully understand thier idea, it sounds like its their best guess as to why their device was picking up interference and that their idea fits in line with string theory, which is slowly being discredited anyway.