Well, a lot of gamers who are Sega fans feel the same way about sony, i hate the way sony do business, they wait until somthing is successful and then jump on the bandwagon.

Just like MS will never get a cent of your money, Sony will never get a penny of mine.

@kowenicki

I agree SONY embarassed us & PS3's 07 was TERRIBLE....AWFUL with no games at all

but after that the console more than delivered in 08 with its best year ever...

I don't think M$ is really wise in saying 3rd Party devs should leave PS3 in its best year that its had sales wise.

and yes SONY acted like idiots towards everyone in 06 but in 07 everything turned on them....a book was written about its failure....M$ has had many "goes" at SONY

but this statement is definetely their worst n it makes them sound desperate imo, desperate to in any way insult & end PS3's traction as they know very well what will happen after another price cut for PS3.

untrue, i own a 360 and 6 maybe 7 games.

It's funny and scary at the same time.
If anything Greenberg says happens to be true, that would mean MS has started destroying HD gaming for good.

The HD maniacs should feel the fear increasing in them already, even hearing what Greenberg says is a hint on the future, and it's not pretty at all.
A lot of people were saying that 3rd parties can ignore the Wii if they develop for XB360 + PS3 (+ PC too).
Now, what Greenberg says either invalidates the point of all these people, or it will be the start of HD gaming's end.
Eliminate PS3, and lots of HD games don't even make sense anymore financially.
You can be pretty sure that means all the japanese devs supporting HD will die even faster. Westerners will die a little less quickly, but will still die.
Besides, imagining some are crazy enough or have the strength to go on XB360 alone, that would mean that these developers will put all their eggs in the same basket. Which when the basket is MS, is very dangerous. They didn't hesitate to kill their own studios to be profitable.
Lots of HD games haven't sold enough on XB360 to make profit. So either MS didn't moneyhat and it means the devs are destroying themselves, or MS did moneyhat them. Well, if they moneyhat them, when Sony isn't there anymore, they won't get any moneyhat from MS, as MS will not have any incentive to do that: it will lead to these devs failure. So a moneyhat is very dangerous mid to long term, even if it has benefits short term.

This nasty battle between the HD consoles is ridiculous already, and to me, both HD consoles already killed themselves off. MS is mostly responsible for that. But clearly, both MS and Sony are losing the trust of most gamers. As I see it, you can't buy any console early next gen hoping that a 3rd party franchise will be on it.
You'll have to wait. You can't even be sure to not get a gimped SKU at launch. This will hurt first year sales of these consoles.
There's also no way you can get the new Wii market with consoles that will cater mostly to hardcore gamers.
To me, this gen looks more and more like PC against NES generation. It's more and more obvious, and I expect the same outcome, only worse (or better depending on the side).

IMO, what MS says here only hints to a bleak future for both XBox brand and Playstation brand.

I dislike MS (and Sony too) for this reason: they seek to limit our choices. I understand that it's the nature of business to make as much money as possible by controlling the market, but as a consumer I like the idea of being able to choose platforms. So when I see companies pay for exclusives and what not, I understand the reason, but it still pisses me off. Because it's an indirect attempt to control what I buy.

That being said, this guy's a joke. While there might be some merit to what he says. MS is sitting on 30% of the worldwide market. Nintendo is crushing all. But this guy is flapping his jaws like he's won some war or something. If MS's sole mission was to beat Sony this gen then OK maybe they have accomplished their mission although I would have to say that Sony helped out alot. But this guys needs to chill out w/ the victory laps bcuz they haven't won anything. But he's trying to jedi the public into thinking they have.

This comment here he makes, makes me see this differently to everyone hear I think.

He added: "Historically, third parties would give us great support and lead developed on our platform, but they would say "In Europe, we have to still support the PS3" but now that that has switched, I think you'll see us get some benefits from that."


To me that looks as though M$ tried to get exclusitivity on some big games, but the devs or publishers werent willing to because of Europe. Maybe after the way 2008 finished, they have been able to gain some exclusives for some big name games. We will wait and see. I have a feeling there is some big game franchises going to be revealed this year as exclusive to 360. He speaks as if this is happening. Maybe M$ have to pay for it, but maybe now they have more sway with it to.

You write this post on windows. :)

Dont try and now tell us your using Linux or a Mac.

:)

course i wrote it on windows it doesnt make me a hypocrit. there IS no competition with the support like windows has. xbox isnt exactly what i consider stellar equipment.

@darthdevidem01

Please do not attack me personally by proxy its rude, and its disrespectful. If you disagree with something I post take issue with the post. Take issue with the points I make. I always make it a point to back up my opinions with relevant facts or points of view. I also think your generalizations are bogus in my previous post I covered two pertinent facts. Firstly that the poor first year damaged third party support which will be apparent this year, and second as it comes to finances its the opposite of popular opinion. A weak economy will not allow for developers casting wide nets with limitless cash. Instead they have to be more pragmatic and focused in order to acquire lines of credit.

You know what those are two things nobody has touched upon in this thread. I bet you would understand that if you hadn't been so jaded as to be too lazy to read my post. My posts may be long, but they are usually well worth the read. I think its a shame your not bothering to read them, because all your doing is deluding yourself.