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mike_intellivision on 11 January 2009

Great post!

I can certainly relate to this. Add in a child (6) -- and you don't get nearly as much time to play. Or if you are lucky like me and have passed along your game-playing habits to your offspring, there are still limits to what you can play.

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frybread on 11 January 2009

Yeah, we get it. You like the wii.



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xcot on 11 January 2009
outlawauron said:
xcot said:
yes but in brawl you just won't win against an experienced player. Yes it was made for pick-up and play, but then if you enter the tourneys and ladders i'm in, there is no pick-up and play, its be good or get raped.

Can't you say the say for any multiplayer games?

 

 

no not any game is pick-up and play. Halo was a bastard, my friends raped me (though that could be because i never owned a 360 at that point), CoD4 isn't noob friendly unless you use the P90. etc.



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rocketpig on 11 January 2009
theprof00 said:
Cmon rocketpig and the other guy. You talk about independance day being bad.... tsk tsk
you have will smith, and jeff goldblum, and Lonestar.

some of the best quotes and one of the funniest movies of all time.
Wow. Epic fail.

 

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rocketpig on 11 January 2009
famousringo said:
C'mon Rocketpig, your assertion that because Miyamoto hasn't made anything for you in the last ten months means he's "jumped the shark" and will never make anything you enjoy again is a little irrational, don't you think?

I agree with the OP that the best games have a system which is easy to get into, but difficult to master. That being said, it's also good to have a variety niche titles with no depth or with an insane amount of depth. I like variety in my games, and Nintendo provides me with a lot of gameplay variety.

I wasn't a Nintendo fanboy coming into this generation. I was a lapsed gamer who mostly just played WoW. Last gen I played more Xbox than PS2 or GC, and the gen before that I played more PS1 than N64, and the gen before that I played more Genesis than SNES. Nintendo have turned me into a fanboy. They earned it by offering me things I didn't even know I wanted. Last month, I bought a DS, and my conversion is complete.

 

The problem with Myamoto is that he's not heading any of Nintendo's great games anymore. Zelda, MK, Mario, all passed on to other directors/producers.

His pet projects on the Wii have been some of the things I hate most about the system. Wii Music was the zenith of his complete lack of judgement and horrible sense of direction. To quote something entirely relevant:

Sick Boy: It's certainly a phenomenon in all walks of life. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: What do you mean? 
Sick Boy: Well, at one time, you've got it, and then you lose it, and it's gone forever. All walks of life: George Best, for example. Had it, lost it. Or David Bowie, or Lou Reed... 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: Some of his solo stuff's not bad. 
Sick Boy: No, it's not bad, but it's not great either. And in your heart you kind of know that although it sounds all right, it's actually just shite. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: So who else? 
Sick Boy: Charlie Nicholas, David Niven, Malcolm McLaren, Elvis Presley... 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: OK, OK, so what's the point you're trying to make? 
Sick Boy: All I'm trying to do is help you understand that The Name of The Rose is merely a blip on an otherwise uninterrupted downward trajectory. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: What about The Untouchables? 
Sick Boy: I don't rate that at all. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: Despite the Academy Award? 
Sick Boy: That means fuck all. Its a sympathy vote. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: Right. So we all get old and then we can't hack it anymore. Is that it? 
Sick Boy: Yeah. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: That's your theory? 
Sick Boy: Yeah. Beautifully fucking illustrated. 




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outlawauron on 11 January 2009
xcot said:
outlawauron said:
xcot said:
yes but in brawl you just won't win against an experienced player. Yes it was made for pick-up and play, but then if you enter the tourneys and ladders i'm in, there is no pick-up and play, its be good or get raped.

Can't you say the say for any multiplayer games?

 

 

no not any game is pick-up and play. Halo was a bastard, my friends raped me (though that could be because i never owned a 360 at that point), CoD4 isn't noob friendly unless you use the P90. etc.

I was more talking about that no matter how easy the game is, on your first try you won't be tournament people.



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Shanobi on 11 January 2009
rocketpig said:
famousringo said:
C'mon Rocketpig, your assertion that because Miyamoto hasn't made anything for you in the last ten months means he's "jumped the shark" and will never make anything you enjoy again is a little irrational, don't you think?

I agree with the OP that the best games have a system which is easy to get into, but difficult to master. That being said, it's also good to have a variety niche titles with no depth or with an insane amount of depth. I like variety in my games, and Nintendo provides me with a lot of gameplay variety.

I wasn't a Nintendo fanboy coming into this generation. I was a lapsed gamer who mostly just played WoW. Last gen I played more Xbox than PS2 or GC, and the gen before that I played more PS1 than N64, and the gen before that I played more Genesis than SNES. Nintendo have turned me into a fanboy. They earned it by offering me things I didn't even know I wanted. Last month, I bought a DS, and my conversion is complete.

 

The problem with Myamoto is that he's not heading any of Nintendo's great games anymore. Zelda, MK, Mario, all passed on to other directors/producers.

His pet projects on the Wii have been some of the things I hate most about the system. Wii Music was the zenith of his complete lack of judgement and horrible sense of direction. To quote something entirely relevant:

Sick Boy: It's certainly a phenomenon in all walks of life. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: What do you mean? 
Sick Boy: Well, at one time, you've got it, and then you lose it, and it's gone forever. All walks of life: George Best, for example. Had it, lost it. Or David Bowie, or Lou Reed... 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: Some of his solo stuff's not bad. 
Sick Boy: No, it's not bad, but it's not great either. And in your heart you kind of know that although it sounds all right, it's actually just shite. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: So who else? 
Sick Boy: Charlie Nicholas, David Niven, Malcolm McLaren, Elvis Presley... 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: OK, OK, so what's the point you're trying to make? 
Sick Boy: All I'm trying to do is help you understand that The Name of The Rose is merely a blip on an otherwise uninterrupted downward trajectory. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: What about The Untouchables? 
Sick Boy: I don't rate that at all. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: Despite the Academy Award? 
Sick Boy: That means fuck all. Its a sympathy vote. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: Right. So we all get old and then we can't hack it anymore. Is that it? 
Sick Boy: Yeah. 
Mark "Rent-boy" Renton: That's your theory? 
Sick Boy: Yeah. Beautifully fucking illustrated. 

 

Your point isn't that what he's doing isn't as good as what he's ever done, it's that he's not doing exactly the same things anymore, which is what you want him to do. Same goes for Bowie, Lou Reed, and many others.

Fans get locked in on what they are used to recieving, and when it isn't that anymore they turn to the forums...

 



 

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rudyrsr8 on 11 January 2009

Well there you go this proves that all the video game addicts are on non-nintendo platforms.

/Random comment



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Shanobi on 11 January 2009

And again, Wii Music is a musical toy. Just because you say the word "zenith", doesn't give you any more cred on the subject.

Sorry Miyamoto thought outside of your box. Get over it.

People said Wii Music would fail, and not even break 500k. Well, it's going way past that, and your constant whining over the subject isn't going to stop it. Deal.



 

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Shanobi on 11 January 2009
rudyrsr8 said:
Well there you go this proves that all the video game addicts are on non-nintendo platforms.

/Random comment

 

What the fuck are you talking about?



 

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