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karimkassis4life5000 said:
@ROBOTECHHEAVEN

ok, but currently there are no square-enix game with 500k(I know,the last remnant will reach) and besides you wanna tell me that selling 500k is a success for a game from a famous company like square-enix,come on( I'm sure they expected more).

 

   Since when 500k is a bad result for a jRPG? seriously, you shouldnt compare sales of Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and Kingdom Hearts to the sales of other jRPGs. 500k is a normal result for any jRPG game, it is a normal result for Square-Enix (check the sales of their non-FF PSone-PS2 games) The Last Remnant will do more than one million worldwide after its PS3 version gets released, and one million is an amazing result for any jRPG game.



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Well, I think it will be close. The PS3 version may sell slightly more in the US, but with the 360 having literally more than double the PS3 version, a lesser percentage of 360 owners have to make a purchase in order to compete.

I'm really not interested in Versus as of yet.  I will get the 360 version simply because of achievements. Unless the reviews come out and the 360 version is somehow hindered, that is.



On topic: That's a difficult question (and a quiet interesting one) and I believe this topic will be discussed for a long time. I am not ready to make a bet myself. But I have pointed out some things that I believe will affect the split of the sales between PS3 and 360 versions.

PS3:

- PS3 is the console where "FF fanbase" obviously is. However FF fanbase proved to mean very little back in 1997. The series is very mainstream, it catches the attention of everyone, not just your usual jRPG fans crowd.

- the PS3 version is claimed to be the superior one. So fans will obviously want to play the game in its best form, but are there many people who care that much about some minor differenses?

- Higher install base in Europe (I believe it will be higher by the time FFXIII arrives) That means much, however Europe is the weakest region for jRPGs.

- Final Fantasy Versus XIII. Fans of the series will want to play both HD XIIIs so PS3 is a better choice (for them) But once again - fans mean very little.

X360:

- Hyped, high-profile, non-casual (and non-sports related) games tend to sell more on the X360.

- Higher install base in North America, where jRPGs sell on par, if not better, than in Japan.

- Square-Enix have released more games for the X360 than PS3 (3 vs 0) So the fans of the company have probably moved to this console. The Last Remnant is doing surprisingly well and there should be a reason for that. However, like I already said fanbase doesnt mean much.

Yoshinori Kitase recently said they are going to promote the game very hard worldwide, if that's the case then the "fanbase this fanbase that" argument means even less. People will buy hyped and promoted game for the console they own. That means PS3 version will sell more in Europe and X360 one will do better in US. So overall I say x360 version will sell more in the West since Europe is the weakest region for this kind of games. This is not my final answer though.



I believe it will sell more on the 360 in the west, but Japan will put the PS3 version ahead worldwide.

I strongly disagree with the brand recognition argument, and after the many examples of it not really panning out I'm surprised it's still accepted almost as if it's a fact. It didn't work out for a number of formerly PS-exclusive titles, it certainly hasn't worked out for the PS3, and especially if Japan is excluded, it's not going to work out for FFXIII.

Final Fantasy has weathered another brand recognition storm before, when they switched from Nintendo to Sony, and they did fine. I think the problem here is that people are forgetting games sell systems, not vice versa. Final Fantasy didn't collapse even though it was regarded as essentially a Nintendo franchise at the time. Gamers will follow Final Fantasy wherever it goes, wherever individual gamers decides are the best choice for them. This could mean that they will just stick to whatever system they have, or whichever system is the cheapest. Most gamers will make the choice based what is best fit for them, while a very small portion will say FF = PS. My belief is that this advantage will be toward the 360 by late 2010 (when a non-Japanese FFXIII release will likely happen).

Short of a massive surge by the PS3, the userbase difference in the west is likely not going to go below 8 million, and could potentially be 15 million in the 360's favor (it is currently just shy of 10 million). With that kind of installed base advantage in the west, combined with a lower price, alond with gamers' demonstrated tendencies to ignore brand associations this gen, and FF's casual appeal that transcends genre fans, I see the 360 versions outselling the PS3 version in the west.



For the RPG fans waiting for FF13 to come out before they buy next gen, the versus exclusive is going to sway it PS3's way imo, just down to how well the consoles do between now and then and how much of a console seller FF is nowadays.



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karimkassis4life5000 said:
on ps3,
1)the fact that the fan base is bigger doesn't mean anything
2) it doesn't change the fact that the only jrpg that sold well on 360 is lost odyssey.
3)there is no proof of that

Have any JRPGs sold better on the PS3?

If GTA4 sold better on the 360, why wouldn't Final Fantasy XIII?  Wasn't GTA a Playstation known series where it sold better?  As far as Final Fantasy, where is the indication the PS3 has a large JRPG base, as in my question on sales of JRPGs and consoles.  Now, there is a chance that Final Fantasy sells more WORLDWIDE, because isn't coming out on the 360 in Japan.  However, worldwide, when Square Enix decides to advertise the game, which company do people believe will get behind having their console advertised with the game?  I would say it is likely Microsoft.

 



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CGI-Quality said:
@ J-Man

As a matter of fact, yes a lot of people do know of Versus it's just not as publicized as XIII is right now. However, come release time, LOTS of people will be made aware of it's presence especially if FFXIII does well, which I'm confident it will. Beyond that, look at DMC4. Demographics, not install base, helped the PS3 version outsell the 360 version. Now Final Fantasy, yes will sell better on the Playstation!

 

I want to ask about your DMC4 argument. Here, we are discussing whether FFXIII will sell more in the west on the 360 or PS3. Worldwide, DMC4 sold 1.3 million on the PS3 and 1.18 million on the 360. However, if you remove Japanese sales, then the 360 version sold 1.11 million to the PS3 versions 0.99 million. This difference will likely grow slightly in the 360's favor, since the 360 version has been outselling the PS3 counterpart for sometime now (Japanese numbers included).

Since you are using DMC4 as an example of a formerly Sony-exclusive franchise outselling the its 360 counterpart, what do you say about the slim margins the PS3 version has outsold the 360 version by, and what do you say to the fact that in the west, the 360 version outsold the PS3 version?



The Xbox 360 version will outsell the PS3 version in America/Canada.

The PS3 version will outsell the Xbox 360 version in Europe.