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WiiStation360 on 08 January 2009

I would quickly come to Vgchartz and start a thread entitled: "The PS4 is just two PS3s duct taped together."



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Esa-Petteri on 08 January 2009
tuoyo said:
Esa-Petteri said:
tuoyo said:
Outcast said:
tuoyo said:
Outcast said:
Wii motion and pointer control is often annoying and unneccesary in many games. I can't count the amount of times I've wished that gathering starbits in SMG was automatic or MP3 was dualstick or mouse controlled.

That's funny.  After playing MP3 (and RE4) with Wii Remote I can't count the number of times when I'm playing Fallout 3 and run out of Action Points so can't use VATS and so just run around trying to dogde bullets until I get some Action Points back because I now find aiming with a control pad totally retarted. 

 

 

If you can't manage to use traditional controls, even though every console has used them since the very beginning, the issue is with yourself, not the game.

Yes the issue is with myself.  That's my nature.  Once I have had something very good I can't go for something less.  It's like driving a bentley for 2 years and then having to use a tiny $5000 car.  I just won't be able to manage.  Would rather just walk.  That's how I feel about aiming with a control pad.  Would rather not do it.   Which is why I am never going to get any shooting game on 360.

 

That is true. For the same reason, I can't see myself playing wii games.

 

Lol.  Is that  because of the controller or because of the games?  If it is because of the controller then why can't you play games like Brawl and Mario Kart that allow classic or gamecube controller rather than Wii remote.  If it's because of the games well you can't argue with the quality of games like Galaxy, Brawl, Zelda TP even if they are not HD.  Or was all console gaming bad before this gen?

 

No, it is not because of the controller. The games just aren't good enough for me. If those games you mentioned are supposed to be the best wii can offer, it clearly is inferior console for me.

I don't get your point, why console gaming should have been "bad" before this gen? Are you trying to make some kind of lame point that you should be happy with wii graphics since you have played even worse looking games years ago? Ohmy..

 

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Well ok, it is partly because of the controller too. I just don't like if you have to waggle when it really makes no difference compared to pushing a button. I prefer the latter.



V-r0cK on 08 January 2009
frybread said:

Imagine the year is 2011.

You drive home from work in your 2012 Honda Accord. I know it's only 2011, but the 2012 models are already out.

You turn on your HOLO-TV and the newscaster, beamed into your living room states, "The Xbox 720 and Sony PS4 were announced at the Cannes Game Festival today. Both feature motion controls, small size, minimal graphic upgrades, and come packed with a collection of fun games anyone can play. They will both compete at retail for $199"

What is your initial reaction?

 

Minimal graphic upgrade @ $199 ..so does this mean that Xbox720 is like the current Xbox360 arcade? and the PS4 keeping all the PS3 features at $199? ..well i think the PS4 would be a better deal.  Knowing MS & Sony, sure its packed with a collect of fun games to attract the "Wii" type customers, but they'll never forget the more violent-serious gamers.

My initial reaction? ..Same as what i've always thought before buying a console: Play the waiting game til i know/see the type of games that will come out that interest me.  Til then, ill hold onto my PS3 =)

 



tuoyo on 08 January 2009
Esa-Petteri said:
tuoyo said:
Esa-Petteri said:
tuoyo said:
Outcast said:
tuoyo said:
Outcast said:
Wii motion and pointer control is often annoying and unneccesary in many games. I can't count the amount of times I've wished that gathering starbits in SMG was automatic or MP3 was dualstick or mouse controlled.

That's funny.  After playing MP3 (and RE4) with Wii Remote I can't count the number of times when I'm playing Fallout 3 and run out of Action Points so can't use VATS and so just run around trying to dogde bullets until I get some Action Points back because I now find aiming with a control pad totally retarted. 

 

 

If you can't manage to use traditional controls, even though every console has used them since the very beginning, the issue is with yourself, not the game.

Yes the issue is with myself.  That's my nature.  Once I have had something very good I can't go for something less.  It's like driving a bentley for 2 years and then having to use a tiny $5000 car.  I just won't be able to manage.  Would rather just walk.  That's how I feel about aiming with a control pad.  Would rather not do it.   Which is why I am never going to get any shooting game on 360.

 

That is true. For the same reason, I can't see myself playing wii games.

 

Lol.  Is that  because of the controller or because of the games?  If it is because of the controller then why can't you play games like Brawl and Mario Kart that allow classic or gamecube controller rather than Wii remote.  If it's because of the games well you can't argue with the quality of games like Galaxy, Brawl, Zelda TP even if they are not HD.  Or was all console gaming bad before this gen?

 

No, it is not because of the controller. The games just aren't good enough for me. If those games you mentioned are supposed to be the best wii can offer, it clearly is inferior console for me.

I don't get your point, why console gaming should have been "bad" before this gen? Are you trying to make some kind of lame point that you should be happy with wii graphics since you have played even worse looking games years ago? Ohmy..

 

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Well ok, it is partly because of the controller too. I just don't like if you have to waggle when it really makes no difference compared to pushing a button. I prefer the latter.

No the point is many HD fans seem to think they can never enjoy a Wii game because it is not HD.  Irrespective of whether they would enjoy the gameplay or not.  If someone feels that way then logically it means  they could never have enjoyed any game before this gen.  If you say you don't enjoy those games then fine that is your taste.  At least it is not because you feel any game that isn't HD cannot be a good game.

 



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rubido on 08 January 2009

Don't expect a serious response. Fanboyism is not rational. When that time comes, they will talk about all the positive points and advantages of each version of their wiimote copies. I know it, you the OP knows it and the fanboys will deny it later, but it is the truth.



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dharh on 08 January 2009
frybread said:

Imagine the year is 2011.

You drive home from work in your 2012 Honda Accord. I know it's only 2011, but the 2012 models are already out.

You turn on your HOLO-TV and the newscaster, beamed into your living room states, "The Xbox 720 and Sony PS4 were announced at the Cannes Game Festival today. Both feature motion controls, small size, minimal graphic upgrades, and come packed with a collection of fun games anyone can play. They will both compete at retail for $199"

What is your initial reaction?

 

My initial reaction is I hope they don't do motion control like the Wii does.  My second reaction is I hope either X720 or PS4 will have quality RPGs.



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tuoyo on 08 January 2009
Outcast said:
tuoyo said:
Esa-Petteri said:
tuoyo said:

Yes the issue is with myself.  That's my nature.  Once I have had something very good I can't go for something less.  It's like driving a bentley for 2 years and then having to use a tiny $5000 car.  I just won't be able to manage.  Would rather just walk.  That's how I feel about aiming with a control pad.  Would rather not do it.   Which is why I am never going to get any shooting game on 360.

 

That is true. For the same reason, I can't see myself playing wii games.

 

Lol.  Is that  because of the controller or because of the games?  If it is because of the controller then why can't you play games like Brawl and Mario Kart that allow classic or gamecube controller rather than Wii remote.  If it's because of the games well you can't argue with the quality of games like Galaxy, Brawl, Zelda TP even if they are not HD.  Or was all console gaming bad before this gen?

 

You are making a lot of assumptions with your post as is very typical of the Nintendo fans on this board. Believe it or not, Nintendo franchises aren't for everyone and I, as well as many other people on this board, would appreciate it if you stopped shoving them down our throats.

As for your last sentence, it stinks of ignorance. Of course last generation games weren't bad, but some of us like to move on. Black and white television was good enough. Why do we need colours when plenty of good films were made and still could be made without colour? If a film has a good story, who the hell needs colours?

 

I am assuming that people would be open minded enough to appreciate a good game even if not to their taste.  Without having played COD4 (and probably never will) I can still appreciate that there are tons of people that would find it amazing.  Likewise by mentioning Galaxy, TP and Brawl I am not expecting any non-Nintendo fan to think those are good games for them but rather appreciate that those are quality games even if not to their taste.  Surely there must be game that would come out on the Wii that would be to his taste so to say he could never see himself playing a Wii is a bit extreme.  What if Wii sales blow past 100 million and all the franchises he loves get moved to Wii? 

As for your comment on the last sentence let me guess you are a Sony fan.  Correct?  If so, what if as with last gen Sony had the weakest console?  Would you have insisted on moving on and never ever playing PS3?

 



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freedquaker on 08 January 2009

I'd buy both of them because I am not a wii hater, I love the efficient sleek and silent console; I am a nintendo disliker



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JGarret on 08 January 2009

By 2011, if things go according to plan, I´ll be driving a red 2009 F430.



Mr Khan on 08 January 2009

Two rumors have indicated "incremental upgrades" for both Sony and Microsoft, consoles that are stronger, but sit in the same ballpark. For Microsoft, the rumor comes in the form of "Forwards Compatibility." The release of late-gen 360 games that could be played, in enhanced form, on the 360's successor. 360 would be the game's "minimum requirements" and 720 would be the game's "recommended requirements" with a noticeable jump in between, but that would indicate ballpark statistics (as it would be very hard to program a game with minimum requirements of, say, 24 MB of RAM and 64 MB of V-RAM, then recommended requirements of 256 MB RAM and 256 MB V-RAM, with 750 MHz minimum processor, and 2.5 GHz optimal)

 

With Sony, there's the rumor about the PS4 simply being the PS3 without the RSX, and with more SPE's to accommodate, and then accentuate, the console's abilities

 

And motion controls are the future. Joysticks didn't last long after the control pad was introduced, why would the control pad last?



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