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canch on 06 January 2009

Another one.... What if EA's 3DO console was a success, if they sold it at a less price but made money from software like all console makers do now...w



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celine on 06 January 2009
mike_intellivision said:

5. What if Wii did not have motion controls and was another regular system made by Nintendo?
No one really cares about another third-place Nintendo console, especially one with limited graphics. The GC2 halts production in early 2009 and Nintendo focuses on DS and software -- becoming a third-party like its chief rival from the classic days Sega had to do a few years before. Zelda HD and Mario 256 HD are expected to be a holiday hit in 2010.

I call bullshit on the bolded part

 



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celine on 06 January 2009
canch said:
Another one.... What if EA's 3DO console was a success, if they sold it at a less price but made money from software like all console makers do now...w

First 3do wasn't a EA console it was a standard designed by the 3Do Company and lincensed to other manufactures like Panasonic and Goldstar.

The inerithed business model of 3Do was flawed thus the hardware high price was only a consequence of the miscalculation made with the business plan.

 

 



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celine on 06 January 2009
mike_intellivision said:
Now for my puzzler

What happens if Atari does not pull the 7800 from store shelves in 1984 -- so it is still there when the NES makes it US debut and plays games with which American audiences are more familiar?

Mike from Morgantown

Nes didn't stole a market, it revived one that was languished ( caused by Atari mismanagment ).

Nintendo with the Nes fought to regain consumers awareness for console gaming and fought the idea that the future of gaming was on the more capable, high tech, elitist home computer ( ST, Amiga ).

So Atari 7800 and Master System at that time can only take the crumbs left by Nintendo unexpected ( by market analysts ) success.

Even if Atari didn't pull the 7800 they won't gain anything substantial from Nintendo success ( hell console gaming was call Nintendo at that time ) and Atari was still a company poorly run.

EDIT:

1) What if Atari had signed the contract to publish the NES in the US market ?

2) What if Nec had released the Tatsujin project in spite of PC FX like PC Engine successor ?

3) What if Matsushita had released the M2 ?

Stealth edit:

4) What if WiiSports didn't exist ?



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chaospluto on 06 January 2009

What if...

Atari was where Nintendo is today. That would be one Epic battle imho.



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Frankenstein on 06 January 2009

2. Gaming would be no-where near as fun as it is today.



disolitude on 06 January 2009

@celine

What if Matsushita had released the M2 ?
M2 was less powerful than the dreamcast and while it was suppsoed to come out a year earlier, it would have gotten slaughtered once PS2 came out. I liked 3DO myself. Friend had it and I liked the fact that it had almost any type of game...including porn. However by 1997 all that changed and the 32/64 bit games became standardized. So 3do M2 would have been another player in the sea of players losing money and not gaining marketshare.

I do wish it came out tho...I loved the console race when there was 10 players on the market.



JHawkNH on 06 January 2009

What if Nintendo had agreed to be bought out by Microsoft. (But instead told MS to "Suck their little yellow balls.")



alpha_dk on 06 January 2009
disolitude said:
alpha_dk said:
blunty51 said:
1) well i guess Sega might still have had a stake in the hardware business
2) nintendo would have probably never fallen from grace
3) uhh
4) uhh2
5) last place again

Agree with 1, 2, 3, 5

4a) It either would have been prohibitively expensive on the N64, so nothing would change, or
4b) It would be less FMV'd with N64 and PS version equivalency, in which case it is too hard to predict, or
4c) It would be less FMV'd and N64 would have had better graphics than PS version, in which case it is too hard to predict,  or
4d) N64would be less FMV'd and PS version would have more extras (possibly including FMV), in which case nothing would change

So, in at least 1/2 of the scenarios I can come up with, nothing would have changed.

 

 About your point number 4...Saturn and PS1 in Japan were head to head before Final Fantasy 7 came out. Some stats show that saturn was ahead for a good period in 1996. If Saturn version of FF7 was announced it could have sustained sega in Japan for a while longer.

Saturn had lots of canceled games not becuase they wouldn't have sold(Sega games sold in Japan well) but because the its Japanese userbase wasn't large enough to sustain Sega as a company so other companies knew that Sega would abandon the saturn prematurely. Resident Evil 2 was one of them... the trickle effect.

That's a good point.  I was only assuming FF7 N64/PS1 because those were the two consoles it had development time on

I guess that's why I shouldn't assume...



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celine on 06 January 2009
JHawkNH said:
What if Nintendo had agreed to be bought out by Microsoft. (But instead told MS to "Suck their little yellow balls.")

Sadly a fake.

Long life to the President.

 



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