1.  "They believe it to be a modest feature of limited use still but will never admit to it as being something that ruined games or is fundamentally broken."

Finally.  At long last you specify exactly what you believe qualifies as fanboy delusion with respect to Sixaxis motion controls.  I'm sorry for the contention that resulted from me not demanding that you specify exactly what you define as "singing the praises of Sixaxis" in the first place, but I hope you can concede that my (incorrect) assumption was an easy one to make given the caustic tone of your reference. 

2.  I haven't seen much discussion of the Sixaxis motion controls, partially I'm sure due to the fact that I haven't been in any Warhawk threads, but I'll certainly stipulate that many PS3 fans consider Sixaxis motion controls to be "a modest feature of limited use".  I think that the allegation that this qualifies as fanboy delusion comparable to RRoD denial is highly questionable. 

As for "backpeddling" (backpedaling) let me remind you that we all can go back to the first few relevant posts and see that I am clearly focused only on the comparison of Sixaxis denial to RRoD denial, and not your post in general.  If I'm trying to refocus this debate back onto its original scope, that's only because these posts are getting fucking huge and taking over the thread (and my free time) which I originally wanted to avoid. 

3.  For a guy who called me out on allegedly playing with semantics (yet can't back up that claim), you sure seem awfully eager to do it yourself.  And the best part is that you did it wrong.  "I am not and never said anything to contradict this."  So:  "I am not" -- referring to starting the war; "and never said anything to contradict this" -- this meaning the fact that "I am not".  Honestly.  

i.  I understand that MotorStorm:  Pacific Rift has motion controls. 

THE STUFF BELOW HERE IS NOT RELEVANT TO THE ORIGINAL POINT OF CONTENTION

ii.  Judas?  Please.  Albatross is a much better metaphor.  And are you suggesting that the PS3 will get at least TEN MILLION games?  (If ONE of them needed Blu-ray coughmgs4cough, then that would result in your percentage.)  I only point this out as an example of your incessant hyperbole.  [edit:  and by "this" I'm referring to the 99.99999% figure and its logical consequence.]

iii.  I don't recognize that reference.  The Cell has sizeable advantages and disadvantages, chief among the latter being programmers' unfamiliarity with its novel design.  It was probably a good idea executed too soon (similar to Blu-ray). 

iv.  Some people like Eye of Judgment.  In any case it's just another peripheral with limited application, hanging on to a niche userbase.  You're blowing this completely out of proportion, it was never meant to be as big as the Wii Balance Board is turning out to be. 

v.  "nothing I can recall on the 360 ever recieved this anticipation, not even Halo 3."  If that's truly what you believe then I have no chance of convincing you otherwise.  And as far as speaking for the benefit of onlookers goes, I think the bolded quote almost speaks for itself -- Halo 3's hype has had no equal, with the possible exception of Super Mario Bros. 3, [edit:  and maybe, maybe FFVII,] and certainly not Home.  Unless of course you're defining "anticipation" as "desperate hopes attached to the game by fanatics regarding console sales" in which case Home only beats Halo 3 because the Xbots were less desperate.  And I also suspect you're defining "anticipation" and "hype" as anticipation and hype that was left unrealized, which is a nonstandard use of those terms to say the least. 

vi.  Well, I'd expect some serious hype if Nintendo was saying they expected Geist 2 to be on par with their next Mario game, which is about the level of hype the company itself has been giving this game for the last few years.  I stand by my previous assessment of your attitude.  On the other hand, it's obviously true that there have been a lot of Sony fans expecting various games to mark a big turning point for their console, which I would consider a different (though related) issue. 

It's not so much that these other points are less susceptible to facts as it is that I was not attempting to discuss them because I only wanted to dispute the one most obviously incorrect (IMO) part of your post -- for reasons stated above. 

Onimusha12 said: Final-Fan said: Damage control? It's really pretty hilarious to me that I'm being smeared as a "Sony gamer". While it's literally true (I have a PS3 and PSP and play them, albeit less than my Wii and DS), I'm more used to being labeled a Wii partisan. I guess it all depends on whose ego I'm poking. If you're under the misapprehension that I believe the Sixaxis wasn't a mistake, let me disabuse you of that notion: it was. Lack of rumble was just stupid, and the motion controls are a mere shadow of what the Wii remote offers -- which is different from totally worthless. I confess that I too quickly realized how immune to reason my opponent was; but -- as often occurs -- I got too caught up in the debate to simply walk away. See ya. A smiley icon can speak more to insecurity than any collection of words.

I'd say you're projecting, but I know it's not true.  You have no insecurity about this; rather, you have all the certainty of a zealot that anyone who feels anything but disdain for the PS3 is in fact a fanatical Sony supporter.  Being yourself a fanatical Sony detractor, perhaps it's projection after all.

[edit:  maybe exaggeration, I don't follow you around, but it's how you've acted in this thread.  Maybe MikeB just put you in combat mode or something.]