suck it Sony haters. The only thing Sony haters can talk about is Sony not selling any systems but they are ignoring the fact that PlayStation family won last 2 gens. Where were Sony haters then?
Why are you people fighting which is better, SIXAXIS or Wiimote. Wiimote is OF COURSE BETTER even if i own ps3 i am admitting wiimote is better than sixaxis. Comparing Wiimote and sixaxis is like comparing ps3 graphics and wii graphics
| Snake said: suck it Sony haters. The only thing Sony haters can talk about is Sony not selling any systems but they are ignoring the fact that PlayStation family won last 2 gens. Where were Sony haters then? |
They bought Samsung/Panasonic or other consumer electronics brands...
Tease.
| Snake said: Why are you people fighting which is better, SIXAXIS or Wiimote. Wiimote is OF COURSE BETTER even if i own ps3 i am admitting wiimote is better than sixaxis. Comparing Wiimote and sixaxis is like comparing ps3 graphics and wii graphics |
Wii graphics are better, dude
Onimusha12 said:
1. They are in denial of it being a completely and utterly broken feature. I don't see how it is beyond your comprehension to see that it does not require one to hold something in superiority to still be in denial of its true shortcomings. They believe it to be a modest feature of limited use still but will never admit to it as being something that ruined games or is fundamentally broken. There is even a piece of gyroscopic Wii Motion plus-like hardware in each controller that has never been used because of suspisions within the industry that so many were defective that it was just easier not to utilize that feature in game rather than replace the controllers. The funny thing is, you acknowledge your understanding of this later in your response yet choose to play dumb in the beginning here to lead on the question. 2. Back it up, anyone who has been on this forum for the past two years has all the evidence they need, yet I'm sure you see only what you want to see. Eitherway, if backing up my claims is all you really wanted then you'd simply just be able to demand that as simply as its written each and every time I response. No, now you're backpeddling, you're trying to dig yourself out of this murky hole you mired yourself in. 3. So you're saying: "you've never said anything to contradict your turning this whole thread into a war about PS3 fanboy semantics"? Because that's what you wrote. But never mind that I think I might have an idea of what you were trying to say. Maybe. i. How about the fact its not been used in any game other than those that were still in development before the PS3 launched thus showing how terrible Six-Axis was. ii. Blu-Ray is also what killed the PS3 as a viable console by making it too expensive. Any defense of Blu-Ray as an asset of gaming is a defense of its utilization in the PS3. Of course any format with more space will offer an advantage, but the point is not whether Blu-Ray is the superior format, but the fact that people are so set on defending its implimentation in the PS3 that they turn a blind eye to the fact that it is the PS3's Judas. Gaming on the PS3 would not be any different for 99.99999% of its games if it used DVD9 instead of Blu-Ray, except that they wouldn't need manditory installations to compensate for the early Blu-Ray drive's inability to read data at a usable speed. iii. Unlimited Power. Or perhaps an overly complicated and needlessly unique approach to processing that has only added to the PS3's difficulty to program for and expense in developing for. Nobody is willing to admit the Cell Processor was just an out and out bad idea that could have easily been done away with. No. People still need to find some way to redeem it or sing its praise. Bring in all the tech heads you want to show its superiority, hell Reganomics sounded good in theory too. iv. It was a flop and has limited to virtually no practical application. Not more than a few months ago there was a topic or article somewhere where Sony enthusiast were talking about a new PS-Eye game. It's a dead feature, yet people will still pretend its worth even the slightest bit of value when a new PSN game comes out for it. v. No, it was hyped up in only the way the Sony fandom could hype something. Only Smash Bros. Brawl on the Wii was ever this hyped and nothing I can recall on the 360 ever recieved this anticipation, not even Halo 3. This wasn't just a hyped game, HOME was to be the great equalizer, it was to be a console saver, it was to revolutionize online gaming, it was to be the definitive answer to XBLA. To say it fell short is like saying this economic recession is but a small bump in the road. vi. Even for all the undeserved hype the Conduit gets, the sheer universiality of insane hype that goes to every inhouse or exclusive PS3 game set its far apart from the 360 or Wii. Don't try and pin this on the industry as a whole. I have a hard time believing Geist 2 or Advent Rising 2 would've gotten half the reception from the Wii or 360 community as Killzone 2 is getting from the Sony. A game like LBP that would have been ignored had it been a Wii title was elevated to the status of a console saver by the Sony hopefulls, let's just thank god that De'Blob stayed on the Wii *rolls eyes*. You claim you only brought up points that could be backed up with facts, but how are those points are anymore or less suseptable to facts than those you chose not to make a point of discussion? |
1. "They believe it to be a modest feature of limited use still but will never admit to it as being something that ruined games or is fundamentally broken."
Finally. At long last you specify exactly what you believe qualifies as fanboy delusion with respect to Sixaxis motion controls. I'm sorry for the contention that resulted from me not demanding that you specify exactly what you define as "singing the praises of Sixaxis" in the first place, but I hope you can concede that my (incorrect) assumption was an easy one to make given the caustic tone of your reference.
2. I haven't seen much discussion of the Sixaxis motion controls, partially I'm sure due to the fact that I haven't been in any Warhawk threads, but I'll certainly stipulate that many PS3 fans consider Sixaxis motion controls to be "a modest feature of limited use". I think that the allegation that this qualifies as fanboy delusion comparable to RRoD denial is highly questionable.
As for "backpeddling" (backpedaling) let me remind you that we all can go back to the first few relevant posts and see that I am clearly focused only on the comparison of Sixaxis denial to RRoD denial, and not your post in general. If I'm trying to refocus this debate back onto its original scope, that's only because these posts are getting fucking huge and taking over the thread (and my free time) which I originally wanted to avoid.
3. For a guy who called me out on allegedly playing with semantics (yet can't back up that claim), you sure seem awfully eager to do it yourself. And the best part is that you did it wrong. "I am not and never said anything to contradict this." So: "I am not" -- referring to starting the war; "and never said anything to contradict this" -- this meaning the fact that "I am not". Honestly.
i. I understand that MotorStorm: Pacific Rift has motion controls.
THE STUFF BELOW HERE IS NOT RELEVANT TO THE ORIGINAL POINT OF CONTENTION
ii. Judas? Please. Albatross is a much better metaphor. And are you suggesting that the PS3 will get at least TEN MILLION games? (If ONE of them needed Blu-ray coughmgs4cough, then that would result in your percentage.) I only point this out as an example of your incessant hyperbole. [edit: and by "this" I'm referring to the 99.99999% figure and its logical consequence.]
iii. I don't recognize that reference. The Cell has sizeable advantages and disadvantages, chief among the latter being programmers' unfamiliarity with its novel design. It was probably a good idea executed too soon (similar to Blu-ray).
iv. Some people like Eye of Judgment. In any case it's just another peripheral with limited application, hanging on to a niche userbase. You're blowing this completely out of proportion, it was never meant to be as big as the Wii Balance Board is turning out to be.
v. "nothing I can recall on the 360 ever recieved this anticipation, not even Halo 3." If that's truly what you believe then I have no chance of convincing you otherwise. And as far as speaking for the benefit of onlookers goes, I think the bolded quote almost speaks for itself -- Halo 3's hype has had no equal, with the possible exception of Super Mario Bros. 3, [edit: and maybe, maybe FFVII,] and certainly not Home. Unless of course you're defining "anticipation" as "desperate hopes attached to the game by fanatics regarding console sales" in which case Home only beats Halo 3 because the Xbots were less desperate. And I also suspect you're defining "anticipation" and "hype" as anticipation and hype that was left unrealized, which is a nonstandard use of those terms to say the least.
vi. Well, I'd expect some serious hype if Nintendo was saying they expected Geist 2 to be on par with their next Mario game, which is about the level of hype the company itself has been giving this game for the last few years. I stand by my previous assessment of your attitude. On the other hand, it's obviously true that there have been a lot of Sony fans expecting various games to mark a big turning point for their console, which I would consider a different (though related) issue.
It's not so much that these other points are less susceptible to facts as it is that I was not attempting to discuss them because I only wanted to dispute the one most obviously incorrect (IMO) part of your post -- for reasons stated above.
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BMaker11 said:
Wii graphics are better, dude
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they sure are 
Snake said:
they sure are |
PS3 exclusives I am looking forward to in 2009 include Gran Turismo 5, Infamous and Killzone 2 as for the Wii and 360 I cant think of anything I would want as an exclusive on them.
Help I cant get my trophy card to work.
No,there will be more and more Sony haters.
Stupid people chose stupid president,Stupid country made stupid rules,stupid consumers made stupid market.That is how Bush becomes the president.
If you don't care shit,even shit could be sold so well,EVEN shit could become a president as well.
And If the shit could become the president,then what's the big news,Sony will get more and more haters?
The world will be bitter and bitter,'cause it runs under a bitter rule now.
PS:USA's falling for sure.No doubt,'cause it runs under a rule---a Bitter rule---the rule that destroys everything good(only a few people get what they want,true evil way.),OBAMA can't change that rule alone---maybe he don't even wanna change it And already adapted it too.
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