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FinalEvangelion said:
I've got to say, I don't think I've seen as much hate for a console as PS3. Regardless of sometimes dumb marketing and PR or not so good sales, PS3 provided me with a great gaming experience in 2008. But, the PS3 was the first console since SNES & Genesis (I owned both) where people outside the internet (which wasn't around too much back then) to judge my purchase.

Speaking of Halo. I have to return to the US from Japan in February (unfortunately). One of the many things I'm not looking forward to is the Halo and Gears fandom.

 

Obviousally you never saw the hate Sony fanboys, magazines, web sites, MS fanboys, and just about every media outlet, did to the Game Cube... I mean really, if you ever went into a gaming forum, brought up how you liked your GC better then your PS2 you got insulted, people posting fail posters, acting like retards, I mean if it was real life they would be throwing feces at you...

 

Funny thing, I did actually like my GC better than my PS2 in some aspects.  The Wii is a different story.  I like Nintendo and Sony as companies.  This generation, Sony made a console that interested me as a gamer.  Nintendo really didn't.  I know it's not popular opinion, but it's mine.  I really don't like MS from many experiences dealing with them, but I wanted to play Tales of Vesperia and eventually Star Ocean 4.

 

Last generation, I never was approached with fanboyism in real life and did fine with a GC and a PS2.  This generation, I did get approached with fanboyism IRL.  That's probably why I pay more attention to it.

 

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Well, I love Final Fantasy.  I've been a fan since IV (so yes, before VII when the series was still with Nintendo)  Of course, there are many haters and I will probably get rocks thrown at me on this site for saying that.  But yeah, with channels like G4 - Halo and Gears are touted as the second coming.



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FinalEvangelion said:
I've got to say, I don't think I've seen as much hate for a console as PS3.

 

 You are wrong.

N64 saw MUCH MORE hate that ANY console ever created. And to help you remember things. The hate was directed not only by press, fans, etc but from developers, publishers too. which is not the case with ps3 right now.

Come on ps3 fans just admit that you are not familiar to be in the last position and even ms beat you week after week especially on Christmas where you expected skyrocket sales for your machine.

I'll say it again. It's good for videogames industry when a giant falls as such things made evolution new ideas and better products. Nintendo did it, ms performs better and better as time pass. It's Sony's turn to think creatively and counter attack with fresh, innovative software in this generation and with a much well rounded console in the next generation. That or they will fail.



wii4ever said:
FinalEvangelion said:
I've got to say, I don't think I've seen as much hate for a console as PS3.

 

 You are wrong.

N64 saw MUCH MORE hate that ANY console ever created. And to help you remember things. The hate was directed not only by press, fans, etc but from developers, publishers too. which is not the case with ps3 right now.

Come on ps3 fans just admit that you are not familiar to be in the last position and even ms beat you week after week especially on Christmas where you expected skyrocket sales for your machine.

I'll say it again. It's good for videogames industry when a giant falls as such things made evolution new ideas and better products. Nintendo did it, ms performs better and better as time pass. It's Sony's turn to think creatively and counter attack with fresh, innovative software in this generation and with a much well rounded console in the next generation. That or they will fail.

 

I think the Sega Saturn was hated more.

 

I never made the prediction that sales would skyrocket once I saw $400 vs. $200.  We also got to remember Wii is $250 vs. Xbox 360 $200.  There is a big gap between production costs. 

 

N64 hate decreased in America, from what I remembered, when Goldeneye was released.  That market segment (console FPS fans) moved to the Original Xbox with Halo.  GC was left with the hardcore Nintendo franchise fans, including myself.



"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."  --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials 

 

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wii4ever said:

I'll say it again. It's good for videogames industry when a giant falls as such things made evolution new ideas and better products. Nintendo did it, ms performs better and better as time pass. It's Sony's turn to think creatively and counter attack with fresh, innovative software in this generation and with a much well rounded console in the next generation. That or they will fail.

 

I can't wait for Nintendo to crash then , no I'm joking.

But what is sad about PS3 is that they are failling because they wanted to innovate on the hardware side.... and problem kept pilling up...

Now I don't think anybody (from the industry) would dare to officialy complain about the mammoth that is the Playstation brand.... yet...



 

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I can't wait for Nintendo to crash then , no I'm joking.

 

 Nintendo crashed with N64 and later with Gamecube. They learnt the hard way what is the cost abandoning casual gamers. They had to think different many things if they had to survive, and so they did. They first replaced Yamauchi who althought a legend represented an old way of thinking and then they try and manage to develop something that would made them different. They hit bingo with DS and continue that way with WII. I am almost sure that if N64 was a success we would be still playing with cartridges.

But if someone falls had to make steps forward of the competition in order to stay in business. And that's always good for us the gamers.



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Yes, the 360 crowd had to be dragged kicking and screaming into admitting RROD was a problem. But they at least acknowledge it as such now.

In contrast we see people in this very thread arguing against the idea that the PS3 is a console of limited appeal or that it has become pigeon holed in the high end market niche.

I never suggested the PS3 was as relegated as the CD-I, 3DO or Laserdisc, but the fact remains, the current appeal of the PS3 is far more high end market than either the 360 or Wii is.



My point was that you said 360 fans accepted RRoD (which was eventually true), while contrasting that with the PS3 fans in denial about the Sixaxis and its motion controls and lack of rumble. But, just as 360 fans have accepted the severity of the RRoD problem (now that it's in the past), so too did PS3 fans accept the inferiority of Sixaxis motion control compared with the Wii Remote (few games used it and it's a fairly ignored function) and the fact that lack of rumble was a serious omission (now that they have the DS3 available).

By contrasting the PS3 fans with the 360 fans who have accepted the severity of the RRoD, you imply that the PS3 fans have NOT accepted the shortcomings of the Sixaxis, which is blatantly false AFAIK.



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Final-Fan said:
My point was that you said 360 fans accepted RRoD (which was eventually true), while contrasting that with the PS3 fans in denial about the Sixaxis and its motion controls and lack of rumble. But, just as 360 fans have accepted the severity of the RRoD problem (now that it's in the past), so too did PS3 fans accept the inferiority of Sixaxis motion control compared with the Wii Remote (few games used it and it's a fairly ignored function) and the fact that lack of rumble was a serious omission (now that they have the DS3 available).

By contrasting the PS3 fans with the 360 fans who have accepted the severity of the RRoD, you imply that the PS3 fans have NOT accepted the shortcomings of the Sixaxis, which is blatantly false AFAIK.

 

 Except there are still many PS3 fans who sing the praises of Sixaxis, and rather than the Sony fandom conceding to the SixAxis' shortcomings we see more of an avoidance to even speak of the issue. Denial by Silence is still denial.



Onimusha12 said:
Final-Fan said:
My point was that you said 360 fans accepted RRoD (which was eventually true), while contrasting that with the PS3 fans in denial about the Sixaxis and its motion controls and lack of rumble. But, just as 360 fans have accepted the severity of the RRoD problem (now that it's in the past), so too did PS3 fans accept the inferiority of Sixaxis motion control compared with the Wii Remote (few games used it and it's a fairly ignored function) and the fact that lack of rumble was a serious omission (now that they have the DS3 available).

By contrasting the PS3 fans with the 360 fans who have accepted the severity of the RRoD, you imply that the PS3 fans have NOT accepted the shortcomings of the Sixaxis, which is blatantly false AFAIK.
Except there are still many PS3 fans who sing the praises of Sixaxis, and rather than the Sony fandom conceding to the SixAxis' shortcomings we see more of an avoidance to even speak of the issue. Denial by Silence is still denial.

I find this very hard to believe.  The Dual Shock 3 came out in all regions by the start of July.  When was the last time you saw someone singing the praises of the Sixaxis?  Or defending it against people who said that the lack of rumble was bad or that its motion controls were inferior to the Wii controllers'?



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Final-Fan said:
Onimusha12 said:
Final-Fan said:
My point was that you said 360 fans accepted RRoD (which was eventually true), while contrasting that with the PS3 fans in denial about the Sixaxis and its motion controls and lack of rumble. But, just as 360 fans have accepted the severity of the RRoD problem (now that it's in the past), so too did PS3 fans accept the inferiority of Sixaxis motion control compared with the Wii Remote (few games used it and it's a fairly ignored function) and the fact that lack of rumble was a serious omission (now that they have the DS3 available).

By contrasting the PS3 fans with the 360 fans who have accepted the severity of the RRoD, you imply that the PS3 fans have NOT accepted the shortcomings of the Sixaxis, which is blatantly false AFAIK.
Except there are still many PS3 fans who sing the praises of Sixaxis, and rather than the Sony fandom conceding to the SixAxis' shortcomings we see more of an avoidance to even speak of the issue. Denial by Silence is still denial.

I find this very hard to believe.  The Dual Shock 3 came out in all regions by the start of July.  When was the last time you saw someone singing the praises of the Sixaxis?  Or defending it against people who said that the lack of rumble was bad or that its motion controls were inferior to the Wii controllers'?

Anytime someone talks about that warhawk flying game. The last time said rumble was bad was when Sony announced the PS3 controller wouldn't have it, now since they've announced it will be back, no one has any reason to pretend its bad anymore.