ha the reason that car companies are going broke in america is because they are stupid.  They set up some retirement plan thing back some time ago that is F*ing them big time right now.  LIke if you are with the company for a certain length or whatever when you retire you get paid still 90% of what you would be getting paid if you still worked there.

THey are going broke becuase of that.  My Dad's uncle worked for a one of the companies GMC, or FOrd or whatever it was and he is making more money now per month than he ever did when he was working.  He has been retired for like 20 years.  I mean once you reach that point, why would you want to keep working if you still make 90% of your salary.  And goes up with economy inflation and stuff too.   And now the car companies want the government to bail them out and pay for it all. 

THAT is why american companies a lot of them go down the shitter and other countries are doing fine.

I find it funny how the heading says Grownups only, yet kids still manage to come in and spoil the thread.

Damn fanboy kids and their lack of understanding between Revenue and Profit.


On topic, interesting post you have made. Although some small educated guesses, it does put into perspective of what gold mine Nintendo is potentially sitting on.

 You are very correct. If they blow it they can't make it up in another division. I have to think doing something as radical as the Wii had a bit of a bet-the-farm element to it. And maybe that was a good thing.

Well there was the DS before it, but sure they seem like the least conservative business in the history of big business. That's what makes so damn interesting.

leo-J

Profit is total revenue minus total costs

That is the stupidist conservative argument ive ever heard. You know usual check list, blame unions, blame employees, blame everyone else, except the executives who continued to make trucks / suv's even though no one can afford the petrol that goes in them or the cars themselves.

Japan has much better employee protection and healthcare, but they seem to be doing alot better. Your republican uncle was lied to, though i cant understand why he would still be listening the party that pretty much ruined any financial stability the US gov. had 8 yrs ago.

huh? how is my uncle lied to?   He makes more than he did when he worked.  That is a fact not a lie.  And I don't know who made the plan of paying the retired workers so damn much.  Was it a Union or some dumbass execs.  I don't know, your the one saying i'm blaiming unions.  The car companies where making a shit ton back when they made this thing and obviously were thinking wow good idea, yet didn't think of the future at all.  Which is completely opposite of Nintendo, they always are thinking of the future.

I don't know if being a republican or democrat matters at all.  If someone came ot your with a plan involving paying your retired workers some huge percentage it doesn't take much more than a moron to realize that it is a retarted move and your business is gonna be in trouble in the future because of it.  Ha and your being the ignorant democrat if you think that Bush is the one responsible for everything bad and Clinton was the most amazing guy ever.  Clinton was in office during an amazing economy time and nothing happened when he was in office, he had to do nothing.  Some of you don't realize that economy goes in turns all the time. Not saying bush is perfect or anything.  Let me guess, you believe in global warming too.

Edit: and why should we blame car makers for making SUV/Truck or whatever big sized vehicle.  People don't have ot buy them.  If someone wants a big truck they shoudl be able to have it.  But the government put a law that the companies had to raise the MPG on cars and change them.  This has hurt some companies huge and even put some out of business becuase their cars they were making were illegal and they had to put into huge R&D to change and could not afford to do that.  If you shut down a car essembly line for a short time you loose so much money, imagine if you had to shut down until you came out with a new car design.

 The chart above (click to enlarge) is from the 2008 Harbour Report on automotive manufacturing productivity, showing the $606 per vehicle labor cost advantage for Toyota vs. the Detroit 3 in 2007, because of the average hourly labor rate of $75 for the Detroit 3 compared to the Toyota hourly rate of $47. Looking forward, Harbour predicts a labor rate of $54 per hour by 2011 for the Detroit 3, and only a $97 per vehicle cost disadvantage per vehicle.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_otfwl2zc6Qc/ST0vE2qqwMI/AAAAAAAAIAU/kiGthJIfP3o/s1600-h/harbour.bmp

This has been, heretofore a very civil, and informative chat. This new topic is also fascinating but will certainly generate a considerably more antagonistic discussion so I urge everyone to leave this where it is for another day and move along. I know I am.

First of all, it's called a pension. 

After that... there's a ton of wrong in what you've been writing, and not just the content.  What you've wrote is a bunch of misinformed talking points.  But I suspect that's what you're trying for here.

And yes, "ur".