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Final-Fan on 03 January 2009
BTFeather55 said:
burch0079 said:
i don't think so Wii is dominating XB360 and Ps3
Yeah, but what is happening in the present has very little bearing upon the future.  What if Sony announced tomorrow that they were bringing out PS Sports and it was going to use the space available on the blu-ray to have 100 more times the number of Sports games that you can play in Wii Sports and they were going to use the graphics capabilities of the PS3 to have lifelike models of some of the most famous fitness and sports figures teach you how to do things and that the characters would be much better looking and that they were bringing out their own even more refined motion control remote to go with it?  That it was going to be the Gran Turismo of motion control sports titles?  It might blow Wii Sports out of the water?  Or what if like Coleco did to the Atari 2600, they came out with a device that let you play Wii games on the PS3?

That's never going to happen, the game would probably suck, and it didn't help the Colecovision or whatever it's called now did it?

[edit:  Quite the contrary, my friend.]



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BengaBenga on 03 January 2009
BTFeather55 said:
burch0079 said:

i don't think so Wii is dominating XB360 and Ps3

 

      Yeah, but what is happening in the present has very little bearing upon the future.  What if Sony announced tomorrow that they were bringing out PS Sports and it was going to use the space available on the blu-ray to have 100 more times the number of Sports games that you can play in Wii Sports and they were going to use the graphics capabilities of the PS3 to have lifelike models of some of the most famous fitness and sports figures teach you how to do things and that the characters would be much better looking and that they were bringing out their own even more refined motion control remote to go with it?  That it was going to be the Gran Turismo of motion control sports titles?  It might blow Wii Sports out of the water?  Or what if like Coleco did to the Atari 2600, they came out with a device that let you play Wii games on the PS3? 

 

I think you missed the part where the average consumer doesn't care about graphics, or else PS3 would already be where Wii is now. Besides no-one cares about 100 Sports games. They just want to Bowl and get Fit. PS3 will never get the exposure Wii has on this front. People play Wii at someone's place and after that they want a Wii themselves. That's how it goes. Not even "100 sports games in glorious HD" would change anything about that.

I don't know how it is going to be selling in such low numbers with such huge exclusives as God of War III, Hideo Kojima's Policenauts 2, Dare I say it Shenmue 3, Metal Gear 5, Trico, Final Fantasy XIII exclusive to Japan and the blu-ray version being by far the best one in the rest of the world, FF Versus XIII, and still possibly FFVII Blu-Ray and Kingdom Hearts III, a number of new games from Naughty Dog including new Jak and Daxter:  The Lost Territory and Uncharted 2 and 3 , Insomniac with Resistance 3 and probably two more Ratchet games, and Sucker Punch InFamous I-III and new Sly Cooper, Heavy Rain being the rebirth of cinematic gaming, and Gran Turismo 5 all on the way.

You're so desperate that you invent half the titles in your list out of nowhere? Why not add FFVII remake while you're at it.

Also explain why BluRay would make FFXIII better? And no: no disc swaps doesn't make the game actually better. It does make it more convenient. Besides Resistance, Ratchet, Uncharted, etc already are on PS3 and didn't skyrocket its sales, did it?

The "rebirth of cinematic gaming" (pathetic) will bomb like hell, I'll tell you that about the "rebirth of cinematic gaming".



Final-Fan on 03 January 2009

"rebirth of cinematic gaming"? We just got MGS4, how much more movie-like can a game get?



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mibuokami on 03 January 2009
Final-Fan said:
"rebirth of cinematic gaming"? We just got MGS4, how much more movie-like can a game get?

Heavy Rain screams at the corner, howling for its cinematic debut :P

 




abcdario on 03 January 2009

Je je je, in the last generation the shares where like this:

PS2: 70%+
XBOX: 18%-
GCN:18%-

M$ needed to place a lot of money to catch that place, the GCN barely survived with the Nintendo´s 1st Party . . .

I wouldnt consider the Wii a "PS2-like" sucess yet, but all i can tell is the PS3 with a 21% share to be very close to the "GCN" place-of-doom in the last generation.


Muahahjajajjajaj it great to be in the winning spot this time ! XD XD :P XD XD :P XD XD

I still remember the sony fanboys when they used to call us "Pikmins" XD XD XD



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Final-Fan on 03 January 2009

^ Wow. Cool down. (If you make many more faces it might fall off!)

And GCN did not "barely survive".

And you actually got called a Pikmin?? I have never heard of that before. It must have been a strange thing to experience.



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Batman...WTF? on 03 January 2009
BTFeather55 said:
burch0079 said:

i don't think so Wii is dominating XB360 and Ps3

 

      Yeah, but what is happening in the present has very little bearing upon the future.  What if Sony announced tomorrow that they were bringing out PS Sports and it was going to use the space available on the blu-ray to have 100 more times the number of Sports games that you can play in Wii Sports and they were going to use the graphics capabilities of the PS3 to have lifelike models of some of the most famous fitness and sports figures teach you how to do things and that the characters would be much better looking and that they were bringing out their own even more refined motion control remote to go with it?  That it was going to be the Gran Turismo of motion control sports titles?  It might blow Wii Sports out of the water?  Or what if like Coleco did to the Atari 2600, they came out with a device that let you play Wii games on the PS3? 

It's got a hefty price tag. It won't work... Also, look up real play.

They'd get sued up the ass.



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BTFeather55 on 03 January 2009
Domicinator said:
BTFeather55 said:
jkimball said:
Sephiroth357 said:

What do you guys think?

 

 

 

 Make it a poll. I vote 'no way in hell'.  Lucky to hit 30M.

2009  5M

2010 4M

2011 2M

2012 Thud.

 

That's IF they don't pull the plug this spring which is still quite likely....

 

      I don't know how it is going to be selling in such low numbers with such huge exclusives as God of War III, Hideo Kojima's Policenauts 2, Dare I say it Shenmue 3, Metal Gear 5, Trico, Final Fantasy XIII exclusive to Japan and the blu-ray version being by far the best one in the rest of the world, FF Versus XIII, and still possibly FFVII Blu-Ray and Kingdom Hearts III, a number of new games from Naughty Dog including new Jak and Daxter:  The Lost Territory and Uncharted 2 and 3 , Insomniac with Resistance 3 and probably two more Ratchet games, and Sucker Punch InFamous I-III and new Sly Cooper, Heavy Rain being the rebirth of cinematic gaming, and Gran Turismo 5 all on the way.

Listing upcoming releases as a reason why it will sell lots of consoles is not a good argument.  Last year it was, "Yeah, but MGS4, Resistance 2, LBP, etc. etc. are all coming out in 2008!!  How could it not catch up this year?!"

And it didn't.  Those titles didn't push consoles.  So now the Sony defense force is just pushing the "catch up" date ahead another year and listing more upcoming titles.  Just like last year and the year before.

I also love the arguments that the PS3 is actually outselling the Xbox 360 right now.  World wide, the 360 is destroying the PS3 every month lately.  The VGChartz sales gap between the two is widening rapidly again.  Somebody even mentioned that the PS3 was going to make "another comeback" in 2009.  When was the first comeback again?  The PS3 has been solidly in third place for the entire generation with no really strong trend showing that this will ever NOT be the case.  Not even massive title launches have been able to budge it. 

Anyone happen to see that Nielsen story the other day?  The PS2, original Xbox, and Xbox 360 are all being played more than the PS3.  The Xbox 360 is actually being played more than the Wii.  Apparently Nielsen tracks console use as well as TV viewing.  My verdict--the PS3 has been largely viewed as a BluRay player this generation and not so much a gaming machine.

 

     Yeah, but people said White Knight Chronicles would sell a lot of copies and movie a lot of console when it was released and what do you see happening?  The week that White Knight Chronicles is released in Japan, the PS3 sells 50 million consoles and beats the 360 by 37,000 units.  The same thing will happen when Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII (a totally different story in the same world not a part 2 as the other person said) and Gran Turismo 5 are released but with much larger numbers.  And the rest of this gen for the PS3 in Japan at least will go pretty much as it has for the PSP if not better.  The PS3 will have at least 10 million sales in Japan alone by the end of this gen while the 360 barely manages a million sorry if that doesn't float the boats of 360 and Wii fans.

 



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abcdario on 03 January 2009
Final-Fan said:

^ Wow. Cool down. (If you make many more faces it might fall off!)

And GCN did not "barely survive".

And you actually got called a Pikmin?? I have never heard of that before. It must have been a strange thing to experience.

 

The GCN did not "barely survive", u r right, it died after his 3rd year in the market, it only took the EA´s Sports Series and maybe two games more. I hate to admit it, but it was what happened, we only could eat "Mario Salad Party", "Mario Beach Party", "Mario Kart Party", and at the very end "The Legend of Zelda TTP", nothing more to be remarkable of.

 

It is soooo funny, but the PS3 is experimenting this same problems, IN HIS SECOND YEAR !, only 3 or 4 games to talk about and nothing more ! :P Muajajajajjajaa



BTFeather55 on 03 January 2009
BengaBenga said:
BTFeather55 said:
burch0079 said:

i don't think so Wii is dominating XB360 and Ps3

 

      Yeah, but what is happening in the present has very little bearing upon the future.  What if Sony announced tomorrow that they were bringing out PS Sports and it was going to use the space available on the blu-ray to have 100 more times the number of Sports games that you can play in Wii Sports and they were going to use the graphics capabilities of the PS3 to have lifelike models of some of the most famous fitness and sports figures teach you how to do things and that the characters would be much better looking and that they were bringing out their own even more refined motion control remote to go with it?  That it was going to be the Gran Turismo of motion control sports titles?  It might blow Wii Sports out of the water?  Or what if like Coleco did to the Atari 2600, they came out with a device that let you play Wii games on the PS3? 

 

I think you missed the part where the average consumer doesn't care about graphics, or else PS3 would already be where Wii is now. Besides no-one cares about 100 Sports games. They just want to Bowl and get Fit. PS3 will never get the exposure Wii has on this front. People play Wii at someone's place and after that they want a Wii themselves. That's how it goes. Not even "100 sports games in glorious HD" would change anything about that.

I don't know how it is going to be selling in such low numbers with such huge exclusives as God of War III, Hideo Kojima's Policenauts 2, Dare I say it Shenmue 3, Metal Gear 5, Trico, Final Fantasy XIII exclusive to Japan and the blu-ray version being by far the best one in the rest of the world, FF Versus XIII, and still possibly FFVII Blu-Ray and Kingdom Hearts III, a number of new games from Naughty Dog including new Jak and Daxter:  The Lost Territory and Uncharted 2 and 3 , Insomniac with Resistance 3 and probably two more Ratchet games, and Sucker Punch InFamous I-III and new Sly Cooper, Heavy Rain being the rebirth of cinematic gaming, and Gran Turismo 5 all on the way.

You're so desperate that you invent half the titles in your list out of nowhere? Why not add FFVII remake while you're at it.

Also explain why BluRay would make FFXIII better? And no: no disc swaps doesn't make the game actually better. It does make it more convenient. Besides Resistance, Ratchet, Uncharted, etc already are on PS3 and didn't skyrocket its sales, did it?

The "rebirth of cinematic gaming" (pathetic) will bomb like hell, I'll tell you that about the "rebirth of cinematic gaming".

 

      It's not that the average consumer doesn't care about graphics.  It is the fact that the average person that has inflated the Wii's sales to the point where they are right now all the seniors, etc, the new demographic that Wii fans are always saying the Wii has brought to gaming don't know that much about games, and they think the Wii is just as technologically as capable as the PS3 simply because it is supposed to be a "next gen" game console.  Of course when they really start look to take a harder look at games, they will realize that the PS3 is a much more capable console and begin to buy it in earnest.

 

     BluRay will make Final Fantasy XIII better because the cinematics and the music which are a pivotal feature of FF games are going to be compressed into lower quality sizes on the 360.  It will basically be the difference between the dvd version of The Dark Knight and the Bluray version of The Dark Knight.

 

    Yeah right, Heavy Rain will be one of the biggest selling games in 2009.



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