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Zlejedi on 29 December 2008
FrostyTop said:
This is hilarious, why does everyone argue in this "two wrongs make a right" style.

The people who predicted less than 200k are just plain stupid or fanboys or just loopy and maybe taking a potshot at being a correct.

Like those "guess how many sweets are in the jar" games at fairs.

1. This is the 1st proper JRPG on the PS3.

2. This is Japan.

3. PS3 JRPG fans are dying for a JRPG.


These 3 facts mean that there is no way it could have possibly done any worse than it has give or take 10k. I don't care what Famitsu review gave it, its a JRPG on a console that doesn't have ANY AT ALL.



This has nothing even to do with the PS3 in reality. All it means is that people in Japan still buy JRPGs and we already knew this.

In the real world we can only compare its sales with install base (for people who want to associate a sales link between JRPGPS3Xbox 360 - not me) With the factual data we have, we can see that this has tanked in those terms and certainly won't be changing any minds on JRPG console choice for the managment.

This game has been hyped up to the max as per all PS3 games and it has sold only a little more than Xbox 360 JRPG with more than 3 x install base.

No matter what way to spin it the data says the PS3 is much less attractive statistically and in potential revenue per user than the Xbox 360 - EVEN IN JAPAN!

Now lets see how it performs in the US versus the Xbox 360s JRPG's and we'll all have a REAL LAUGH!

This is in no way a slander at the PS3, don't get me wrong. It's my opinion on clutching at straws that the OP is doing. I wouldn't even be commenting if it wasn't for deluded overly optimistic verging on borderline ignorant statements that are being made regarding WKC.

Again, I shall reiterate it's not about what member on VGchartz said what and therefore it has sold well. It's about what is to be expected from a highly hyped first of its kind release in a games number 1 (ratio of console owner to potential buyer) target market.

On those terms, which are the most important terms when you wash away the fanboy PS3 VS Xbox 360 drivel - It hasn't even raised an eyebrow.

Hmm wait are you basing those opinions on comparing one week long sales of PS3 game versus few months of sales data of x360 games ?

 



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FrostyTop on 29 December 2008
Max King of the Wild said:
FrostyTop said:
This is hilarious, why does everyone argue in this "two wrongs make a right" style.

The people who predicted less than 200k are just plain stupid or fanboys or just loopy and maybe taking a potshot at being a correct.

Like those "guess how many sweets are in the jar" games at fairs.

1. This is the 1st proper JRPG on the PS3.

2. This is Japan.

3. PS3 JRPG fans are dying for a JRPG.


These 3 facts mean that there is no way it could have possibly done any worse than it has give or take 10k. I don't care what Famitsu review gave it, its a JRPG on a console that doesn't have ANY AT ALL.



This has nothing even to do with the PS3 in reality. All it means is that people in Japan still buy JRPGs and we already knew this.

In the real world we can only compare its sales with install base (for people who want to associate a sales link between JRPGPS3Xbox 360 - not me) With the factual data we have, we can see that this has tanked in those terms and certainly won't be changing any minds on JRPG console choice for the managment.

This game has been hyped up to the max as per all PS3 games and it has sold only a little more than Xbox 360 JRPG with more than 3 x install base.

No matter what way to spin it the data says the PS3 is much less attractive statistically and in potential revenue per user than the Xbox 360 - EVEN IN JAPAN!

Now lets see how it performs in the US versus the Xbox 360s JRPG's and we'll all have a REAL LAUGH!

This is in no way a slander at the PS3, don't get me wrong. It's my opinion on clutching at straws that the OP is doing. I wouldn't even be commenting if it wasn't for deluded overly optimistic verging on borderline ignorant statements that are being made regarding WKC.

Again, I shall reiterate it's not about what member on VGchartz said what and therefore it has sold well. It's about what is to be expected from a highly hyped first of its kind release in a games number 1 (ratio of console owner to potential buyer) target market.

On those terms, which are the most important terms when you wash away the fanboy PS3 VS Xbox 360 drivel - It hasn't even raised an eyebrow.

 

 after your first whiny post in this thread then after you said it didnt sell to expecactions Im not even gonna bother reading this post. Its probablly more bullshit just give it up

Don't then, I shan't lose any sleep.

Whiny post? No need to throw your toys out the pram when you read something that doesn't follow your logic. Carefully enlighten me with hard facts and I'll listen.

 



SpartanFX on 29 December 2008

@frosty top

just give the bullshit

some threads are good news for sony/PS3, i know you would love it that all of the threads were bashing PS3 but in real world there are good news for PS3 so let people have their fun.



 

 

 

Jo21 on 29 December 2008
FrostyTop said:
This is hilarious, why does everyone argue in this "two wrongs make a right" style.

The people who predicted less than 200k are just plain stupid or fanboys or just loopy and maybe taking a potshot at being a correct.

Like those "guess how many sweets are in the jar" games at fairs.

1. This is the 1st proper JRPG on the PS3.

2. This is Japan.

3. PS3 JRPG fans are dying for a JRPG.


These 3 facts mean that there is no way it could have possibly done any worse than it has give or take 10k. I don't care what Famitsu review gave it, its a JRPG on a console that doesn't have ANY AT ALL.



This has nothing even to do with the PS3 in reality. All it means is that people in Japan still buy JRPGs and we already knew this.

In the real world we can only compare its sales with install base (for people who want to associate a sales link between JRPGPS3Xbox 360 - not me) With the factual data we have, we can see that this has tanked in those terms and certainly won't be changing any minds on JRPG console choice for the managment.

This game has been hyped up to the max as per all PS3 games and it has sold only a little more than Xbox 360 JRPG with more than 3 x install base.

No matter what way to spin it the data says the PS3 is much less attractive statistically and in potential revenue per user than the Xbox 360 - EVEN IN JAPAN!

Now lets see how it performs in the US versus the Xbox 360s JRPG's and we'll all have a REAL LAUGH!

This is in no way a slander at the PS3, don't get me wrong. It's my opinion on clutching at straws that the OP is doing. I wouldn't even be commenting if it wasn't for deluded overly optimistic verging on borderline ignorant statements that are being made regarding WKC.

Again, I shall reiterate it's not about what member on VGchartz said what and therefore it has sold well. It's about what is to be expected from a highly hyped first of its kind release in a games number 1 (ratio of console owner to potential buyer) target market.

On those terms, which are the most important terms when you wash away the fanboy PS3 VS Xbox 360 drivel - It hasn't even raised an eyebrow.

 

oh yeah thats why JRPG are selling X2 in america what they sell in japan?

install base its nothing if people are not buying, as u can see if that were the case wii games would be selling 2-3 millions easily and thats not the case aside own nintendo games.

as for japan a jrpg exclusive would sell better than 360 on the ps3, u think they care about ratio?

its selling better on the ps3, they get more sales, no matter how big the base it, either way, what you are pointing its the xbox36. should not get games in japan if the install base it's so important.



DMeisterJ on 29 December 2008
ClaudeLv250 said:
What's an "HDRPG" and what makes it different from 99.9% of the rest of the genre?

It actually stemmed from a thread that starcraft made a while ago about how the PS3 has not proven itself to sell JRPGs, moreso than the 360 has. 

I threw "HD" into the title so we could focus on that.  Obviously the Wii (or DS) are the king of selling JRPGs, and the 360 is the king of WRPGs, but this is simply talking about Japanese sales of Japanese centric games.



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FrostyTop on 29 December 2008
Zlejedi said:
FrostyTop said:
This is hilarious, why does everyone argue in this "two wrongs make a right" style.

The people who predicted less than 200k are just plain stupid or fanboys or just loopy and maybe taking a potshot at being a correct.

Like those "guess how many sweets are in the jar" games at fairs.

1. This is the 1st proper JRPG on the PS3.

2. This is Japan.

3. PS3 JRPG fans are dying for a JRPG.


These 3 facts mean that there is no way it could have possibly done any worse than it has give or take 10k. I don't care what Famitsu review gave it, its a JRPG on a console that doesn't have ANY AT ALL.



This has nothing even to do with the PS3 in reality. All it means is that people in Japan still buy JRPGs and we already knew this.

In the real world we can only compare its sales with install base (for people who want to associate a sales link between JRPGPS3Xbox 360 - not me) With the factual data we have, we can see that this has tanked in those terms and certainly won't be changing any minds on JRPG console choice for the managment.

This game has been hyped up to the max as per all PS3 games and it has sold only a little more than Xbox 360 JRPG with more than 3 x install base.

No matter what way to spin it the data says the PS3 is much less attractive statistically and in potential revenue per user than the Xbox 360 - EVEN IN JAPAN!

Now lets see how it performs in the US versus the Xbox 360s JRPG's and we'll all have a REAL LAUGH!

This is in no way a slander at the PS3, don't get me wrong. It's my opinion on clutching at straws that the OP is doing. I wouldn't even be commenting if it wasn't for deluded overly optimistic verging on borderline ignorant statements that are being made regarding WKC.

Again, I shall reiterate it's not about what member on VGchartz said what and therefore it has sold well. It's about what is to be expected from a highly hyped first of its kind release in a games number 1 (ratio of console owner to potential buyer) target market.

On those terms, which are the most important terms when you wash away the fanboy PS3 VS Xbox 360 drivel - It hasn't even raised an eyebrow.

Hmm wait are you basing those opinions on comparing one week long sales of PS3 game versus few months of sales data of x360 games ?

 

 

Why is this about me?

I'm presenting clear facts and analysis that makes sense.

What is everyone else presenting? A Fanboy tainted over optimistic outlook.

I feel LBP all over again!

At the OP, don't make stupid threads and you won't get people telling you your stupid in the polite way in which I am doing!



DMeisterJ on 29 December 2008
FrostyTop said:

This is in no way a slander at the PS3...

Bullshit.

Every post you make is slander against the PS3.  Don't fail.



taomaster06 on 29 December 2008
FrostyTop said:
This is hilarious, why does everyone argue in this "two wrongs make a right" style.

The people who predicted less than 200k are just plain stupid or fanboys or just loopy and maybe taking a potshot at being a correct.

Like those "guess how many sweets are in the jar" games at fairs.

1. This is the 1st proper JRPG on the PS3.

2. This is Japan.

3. PS3 JRPG fans are dying for a JRPG.


These 3 facts mean that there is no way it could have possibly done any worse than it has give or take 10k. I don't care what Famitsu review gave it, its a JRPG on a console that doesn't have ANY AT ALL.



This has nothing even to do with the PS3 in reality. All it means is that people in Japan still buy JRPGs and we already knew this.

In the real world we can only compare its sales with install base (for people who want to associate a sales link between JRPGPS3Xbox 360 - not me) With the factual data we have, we can see that this has tanked in those terms and certainly won't be changing any minds on JRPG console choice for the managment.

This game has been hyped up to the max as per all PS3 games and it has sold only a little more than Xbox 360 JRPG with more than 3 x install base.

No matter what way to spin it the data says the PS3 is much less attractive statistically and in potential revenue per user than the Xbox 360 - EVEN IN JAPAN!

Now lets see how it performs in the US versus the Xbox 360s JRPG's and we'll all have a REAL LAUGH!

This is in no way a slander at the PS3, don't get me wrong. It's my opinion on clutching at straws that the OP is doing. I wouldn't even be commenting if it wasn't for deluded overly optimistic verging on borderline ignorant statements that are being made regarding WKC.

Again, I shall reiterate it's not about what member on VGchartz said what and therefore it has sold well. It's about what is to be expected from a highly hyped first of its kind release in a games number 1 (ratio of console owner to potential buyer) target market.

On those terms, which are the most important terms when you wash away the fanboy PS3 VS Xbox 360 drivel - It hasn't even raised an eyebrow.

the best selling JRPG in japan for the 360 is blue dragon which has sold a little over 200k in japan LTD. WKC has has sold more than blue dragon in in only 1 week. so your post makes no sense.

 



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FrostyTop on 29 December 2008
SpartanFX said:
@frosty top

just give the bullshit

some threads are good news for sony/PS3, i know you would love it that all of the threads were bashing PS3 but in real world there are good news for PS3 so let people have their fun.

 

 

OK no problem.

I didn't mean to come in and spoil a party, I thought it was for honest sales discussion.

That is the problem with this place, its hard to know if a thread is just a dirty little brown nosing session or a genuine thread for mature open discussion. When you say something people don't like even if you actually believe what your saying, nobody bothers to put you right they just call you a "hater" and try to discredit you.

None of my posts have been slanderous towards the PS3, I have implied negative sentiment to PS3 fanboys because generally it is they who take themselves so seriously yet make threads that are hysterically wrong and amusing.

My bone is not with a piece of plastic it is with people who worship this piece of plastic and talk crazy for doing so!

While I still have my dignity I will leave forthwith.



Zlejedi on 29 December 2008
FrostyTop said:
Zlejedi said:
FrostyTop said:
This is hilarious, why does everyone argue in this "two wrongs make a right" style.

The people who predicted less than 200k are just plain stupid or fanboys or just loopy and maybe taking a potshot at being a correct.

Like those "guess how many sweets are in the jar" games at fairs.

1. This is the 1st proper JRPG on the PS3.

2. This is Japan.

3. PS3 JRPG fans are dying for a JRPG.


These 3 facts mean that there is no way it could have possibly done any worse than it has give or take 10k. I don't care what Famitsu review gave it, its a JRPG on a console that doesn't have ANY AT ALL.



This has nothing even to do with the PS3 in reality. All it means is that people in Japan still buy JRPGs and we already knew this.

In the real world we can only compare its sales with install base (for people who want to associate a sales link between JRPGPS3Xbox 360 - not me) With the factual data we have, we can see that this has tanked in those terms and certainly won't be changing any minds on JRPG console choice for the managment.

This game has been hyped up to the max as per all PS3 games and it has sold only a little more than Xbox 360 JRPG with more than 3 x install base.

No matter what way to spin it the data says the PS3 is much less attractive statistically and in potential revenue per user than the Xbox 360 - EVEN IN JAPAN!

Now lets see how it performs in the US versus the Xbox 360s JRPG's and we'll all have a REAL LAUGH!

This is in no way a slander at the PS3, don't get me wrong. It's my opinion on clutching at straws that the OP is doing. I wouldn't even be commenting if it wasn't for deluded overly optimistic verging on borderline ignorant statements that are being made regarding WKC.

Again, I shall reiterate it's not about what member on VGchartz said what and therefore it has sold well. It's about what is to be expected from a highly hyped first of its kind release in a games number 1 (ratio of console owner to potential buyer) target market.

On those terms, which are the most important terms when you wash away the fanboy PS3 VS Xbox 360 drivel - It hasn't even raised an eyebrow.

Hmm wait are you basing those opinions on comparing one week long sales of PS3 game versus few months of sales data of x360 games ?

 

 

Why is this about me?

I'm presenting clear facts and analysis that makes sense.

What is everyone else presenting? A Fanboy tainted over optimistic outlook.

I feel LBP all over again!

At the OP, don't make stupid threads and you won't get people telling you your stupid in the polite way in which I am doing!

Yeah right in the same way President Bush showed clear facts on Iraq having weapons of mass destruction :D

And BTW I'm just telling you in the polite way you are totaly x360 biased since you obviously haven't understood sarcasm from my last post :D

 



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