Strategyking92 said:
Onyxmeth said:
Strategyking92 said:
Commando said: Any news of the Dark Knight and Wall-E bieng nominated? I can't see why not.
aside from that, so what's the deal with Frost/Nixon.
I mean personally I don't see why reinact it in a movie rather than just release the actual interview itself. I think I would much rather see that. Or does the movie offer more "behind the scenes" type of look? |
No. Remember kids, hollywood hates good movies that people actually give a damn about *wink wink*
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That's not entirely accurate. The same people that like those two usually have something along the lines of Hancock or Hellboy as their next in line. Animated features have always had the issue that they lack the ability to gather nominations because the categories are favoring live action movies. They can't get nominated for acting, special effects, costume design, and other categories. Also I believe if an animated movie makes a bid for Best Picture it has to give up it's bid as Best Animated Movie. That's how the Documentary category works so I expect it's the same. Maybe not though.
Regarding the Dark Knight, it's just mainly that the value of that movie can't be summed up in nominated categories. Basically it's a jack of all trades and a master of none. Outside of Ledger of course. In my opinion Aaron Eckhart also.
Just remember the Lord of the Rings got nominated all three years and that was more popular and mainstream than The Dark Knight and Wall-E.
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you make a good point. I probably wouldn't compare the quality of Hancock and the dark knight though :P And Hellboy 2 wasn't half bad, Although definetly not as good or original as the first. i mean, the monsters style just felt really out of place to me.
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They'll both be nominated (already were for the Golden Globes), and Wall-E will surely win best animated picture and maybe others, and The Dark Knight will most likely win something, but I frankly didn't want to post them in the original post because everyone would just come in and say they have seen Wall-E and The Dark Knight. Not to mention neither of these movies is going to really bring home the bacon. Both will get two awards at absolute most.
That being said, there are several movies in the original list that probably won't win anything.
And you are completely wrong about Hollywood not loving the movies that people like. They do love those movies, they just love them for different reasons. They love them because they make money. And if you are relying on what the average person likes as what is actually good, then you are really going out on a limb. Notably, Wall-E and The Dark Knight actually are pretty good films, artistically speaking.
The Academy (not Hollywood) typically shys away from the bigger blockbusters because the bigger blockbusters are usually either 1) Trash or 2) Jack of all trades and master of none as Onxymeth pointed out. That doesn't mean that these movies don't ever win awards though, they just usually win less or don't win the big name awards.
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